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Wow. Uncage the inner bigot! Last time I checked, the 'gay' were well represented at all economic levels. Yes, its actually possible to be homeless AND gay! and? what's your point exactly? because some gays are poor, that makes of you an advocate of the poor? something's wrong with your logic. right, let's not forget you also deny the power of propaganda on the uneducated. The uneducated could try, you know, GETTING educated. What, are we supposed to cram knowledge down their dumbass throats or something? Put the foaty n channel changer down and crack a fkin book, beyotch! Schools nowadays are about 400 times better appointed than they were when I was a lad. Jesus, the equipment, computers, astroturf playing fields...so STFU about edumucation! Of course, I went to a poor little Catholic school where if you wanted to learn, you learned. If you didn't, you got yer knuckles whacked by a sadist.

you labor under the illusion that the poor won't reproduce all the depravities of the rich, once in power, or invent a good # of new ways to rape the public till either The Noble Salvage Yard Worker.

"well, there is no prospect of the job market improving for years and you are on your own, but the stock market is doing real good" TVash is coming up with a narrative to increase the popular vote LOLZ Actually, once you realize that you truly ARE on your own, your motivation and thus job prospects improve markedly.

Wow. Uncage the inner bigot! Last time I checked, the 'gay' were well represented at all economic levels. Yes, its actually possible to be homeless AND gay! I think voting was still all volunteer this time around, no? You exactly, um, 'buy' an election by running an ad.

Schumer, Kerry, and Lieberman crafted a comprehensive climate change bill that would have been a game changer, but it fell off of Obama's agenda due to multiple back stabbings by Rfucks who pledged to support it, most notably John McCain. Article in the New Yorker several issues ago. Google it yourself. Another chance for climate reform won't come for a long, long time. It's already too late, so who the fuck cares, right? Of course, progressives would instantly poo-poo any such nonsense, cuz, you know, Lieberman voted for the war and all. Stay pure!

The Dems should have advertised their performance (stock market, etc - it was actually pretty good) during a difficult period rather that sit back and take the bullshit attacks. Now we'll have a bunch of new morons to deal with in the House. There is zero chance, from a mountain of historical data, the Republicans are able to offer a single viable solution to any of the problems this country faces. They can only make things worse...but hey, that is what morons do.

I didn't say we should all be working on the same issues. I said that there is no reason to not care about other egalitarian issues because they aren't the issues you work on. You're essentially the same kind of 'assumption junky' tool as FW and KKK, and you practice the same, unimaginative rhetoric crap. Boring.

Gay weed's only part of a very broad agenda. You can check our state and national website as well as I can parrot it for you. You can check any of the other 50 state chapters' websites for the same. Every state has different issues. Be my guest.

Um...you preaching to me about egalitarianism is kind of laughable at this point, considering how little you've done to actually make 'egalitarianism' a reality in any real sense. I realize that the progressive personality requires a strong sense of righteous elitism, but kindly save any bullshit unsupported by actual results for a more gullible audience.

Well, people are concerned about all kinds of stuff. The economy comes and goes. Civil rights are a longer term issue and, in my view, more central to who are are as a people. Plus, if you're a gay couple trying to adopt, visit each other in intensive care etc, or someone who's sitting in jail for simple pot possession, the job market might not be your most pressing concern. Effective organizations have to remain focused on their mission. You can only do so much with the people and money you got. Those that try to do everything wind up doing nothing.

Actually, we take individual donors out to lunch at the restaurant of their choice, so the rolls, if there are any, are usually pretty good.

wow! check out the super-sized ego! IN the progressive world, we are egalitarians! get it? Egalitarian: Progressive-speak for no accountability for actually accomplishing anything. Hence, the smashing success of the progressive agenda. Real egalitarianism involves ensuring equal rights for, say....all committed couples, regardless of sexual orientation. But, accordingly to you two gentlemen, that's a 'gay weed' issue that simply doesn't matter. Some of those millions of couples may beg to differ, however, but that's probably their egos talking.

How did Gay Weed do? Are we free, yet? Keep us posted! Well...lets see now WA domestic partnership law 2009: all of the more than 1000 rights of marriage guaranteed for all committed couples - more than 10,000 same sex couples in our state so far. CA: Prop 8 overturned - affecting more than 50,000 same sex couples in that state so far. 2 national same sex marriage lawsuits in process. Not mentioning the many legislative victories in other states for the sake of brevity. Weed: Decrim of pot in CA. Lowest level of enforcement priority in Seattle. Overdose amnesty law passed in WA. Various tax regimens passed at the municipal level in CA. How am I doing so far? Is my ego inflating too rapidly for you guys?

I do like to poke the stingless hornets nest on occasion.

Sure is quiet regarding my personal donation, past performance questions...No surprise there. In the progressive world, money is evil and results mean nothing when you're THAT FAR AHEAD OF YOUR TIME!

You might start by quoting complete sentences rather than out of context soundbites...a common tactic you pretend to rail against. With your painfully obvious lack of self awareness, I realize this suggestion may as well be a fart in a closet.

No shit. The Dems are (were?) the incumbents. Incumbents always have a fund raising edge. Hey progressives, if you're going to reform elections, you might try take some time off yoga and blogging to learn the basics. Your lack of even rudimentary knowledge in the areas you care so deeply about may have something to do with your inability to raise money for your agendas. Juuuuussssssst sayin....

Magic! Why didn't anyone else think of that? Has it already happened? What, not yet? Oh, shit, we forgot about that little execution problem.... If I could only dream myself to the top of mountains. Fucking climbing...too much work.

you jumped the shark so one swift boater or one corp funding a candidate or one issue against a candidate funded by thousands or more is a level playing field? you suck! Well, regarding your 'editing', you cuntz are no better than the swift boaters you claim to hate so much. To repeat: Citizens United most certainly levels the playing field between challengers and incumbents - that effect is obvious in this last election. Whether or not you agree with the rightness or wrongness of that effect is pretty much irrelevant, because that's pretty much the way it is now. BTW...have either of you whiny fucks given a dime to any organizations pushing for the campaign reforms you care so deeply about? Have those organizations made any measurable progress legislatively...ever?

Any questions? Sounds great. Go for it. Of course, it doesn't address independent political messaging - the very thing you've been whining so much about.

Sigh. Do you even know what you're trying to say anymore?

Fuckin crybaby.

If your emotional needs are being served by sitting on your hands and complaining about something you can't change, by all means, go for it. Those of us who wish to remain relevant will continue to adapt to a changing world.

I'm sure that if you wish really, really hard, the Supreme Court will reverse Citizens United. Give it a shot.

There's that phase again. It "levels the playing field" for those capable of raising millions of dollars in corporate cash. Period. Yup. And that includes non-profits (like Citizens United, for example)- which includes the ones near and dear to my heart. We've got the smarts, fund raising engine, strategic thinking, balls, and now the freedom to speak out as we see fit. I'm all for it.