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It's also true that just because you are exposed to an illness it is not 100% you will get it. Guess you should forgo the vaccination and "take a chance" (kind of like Russian Roulette). There's more to this than an individual's susceptibility to an illness. If the vaccine is effective for a large majority the laws of probability kick in and the spread of an illness is vastly reduced. If everyone is unvaccinated, it is easier to spread the illness and do so quickly. Is the smallpox vaccine 100% for all people? Because interestingly enough that illness was wiped off the planet thanks to the vaccine (except for a few government deep freezers...). And smallpox also requires booster shots for immunity. Don't confuse Kimmo with science. He went to graduate school, you know.

Hell, seatbelts are not 100% effective either, I guess we should stop strapping infants in.

Once again, a little math: Pertussis vaccine is at best 90% effective. (CDC/WHO) Pertussis vaccine loses efficacy over time (CDC/WHO) So there is at least a 10% chance that you are not immune and could catch it. It also means that 1 in 10 children you come in contact with (higher if you consider that the vaccine may be only 85% effective, and that infants under 6 months are too young for the vaccine) are not immune. You could catch it and spread it to them, at Safeway for instance, increasing their chances of death. So when you make comments like this: it makes you sound uninformed. 90% is better than 0%. Is that all you got? Pertussis is not 100% effective, therefore avoid vaccines?

smallpox innoculations may have even won us the revolutionary war.

Kimmo, would you give your daughter (assuming you have one) the HPV vaccination?

And not only is there a complete lack of evidence linking thimerosal to autism, I don't think he even realizes that most pediatric vaccines don't even HAVE thimerosal these days. http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm096228.htm#t1

He'll probably spend the next 10 years thinking the health care bill has been repealed.

Yout still haven't answered my question. You claim you're not anti-vaccine, so let us know which ones you gave your kids. Stop avoiding the question. Just say, "none" if that's the case. Do you value vaccines, Kimmo? Which ones?

still waiting to hear what vaccines you gave your kids. Since you claim to not be anti-vaccine, there must be at least a couple.....

VAPORIZE!

I bet we're in the last decade of prohibition. It seems inevitable.

I tried for the third ascent, but the tree was gone. I figure that bumps it up at least 2 grades.

drugs are bad, mkay?

well, she definitely has a FUPA. Also, is she picking a wedgie immediatly during the first seconds? Its hard to tell if it's a pick, or a scratch.

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I've never even heard of someone washing a rope so much.

Paleolithic man didn't have chicken nuggetz tho.

OMG Quest For Fire! Best. Movie. Ever. I love when she teaches him missionary position.

This chocolate stout looks like espresso. mmmmmmm!

BAM!

Sounds like someone has read Guns, Germs and Steel. Some scientists argue it's more complicated than that. In fact, some anthropologists are finding evidence that disease may have caused the temporary shrinking of humans, not farming. Anyway, have you read this article? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5604296/Is-farming-the-root-of-all-evil.html Regardless, I guess conversations about paleolithic man's habits and ethos will always have a certain amount of conjecture about them, either way. How did we get on this subject?

and lived to the ripe old age of 30.

My employer is scaling back our (quite generous) health benefits in 2013. However, they state that this isn't a function so much of Obama, but of rising health care costs in general over the last ten years combined with the tough reality of the current economy. They've also been making cuts in other areas. However, they will still be quite good, and some might argue that for better or worse they will be a more realistic and reflective view of the modern state of our healthcare system.

There can be only one.