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Hmmm: Oregon Crack: I don't know it's real name, jokingly goes by "Supercrack of Oregon" - Trout Creek Oregon Sport: Vomit Launch!!! at Smithie Washington Crack: Last pitch of NW Face NEWS Washington Sport: Infinite Bliss ( I think it's the only bolts I've climbed in WA)

Well said, thank you.

So, in principle I agree, most of them are in it strictly for the entertainment value in an activity that doesn't really require all that much of them... Umm, excuse me? "doesn't require much of them?" You really are pompous, it's completely absurd. Just because something has some bolts on it doesn't mean it doesn't require effort, and lots of it. And just because IB has bolts on it doesn't mean that it's and "outdoor gym" and "risk-free". People who haved climbed the route who agree that it not something to take on lightly. And one more thing, the route setters/community didn't use retsraint? Hello, there is one very difficult to locate bolt on pitch 15, which is pretty exposed climbing. I think, on the contrary, that the setters used quite a lot of restraint. But I've climbed the route, so I'm allowed to have an opinion....

Alpine1 - Don't listen to the nay-sayers. Infinite Bliss is wonderful fun. Yes it has bolts to protect the face/slab climbing (aaagghh!! God forbid!!! Let us all burn in hell) but it is certainly not a sport route. I recommend being comfortable at the grade because of the runouts, and be careful with your routefinding on pitch 15. If you use the search function you will find the topo that I used, and that's all the info you need. Furthermore, I think there is enough climbing in the Cascades to go around for everyone, I don't understand why we have to be so hateful towards a great route that wouldn't be available otherwise. JosephH you are right, we don't want you on it, because you're a dink. Take your Holier-Than-Thou bs somewhere else.

My advice - unless you want your hard-earned time and money to go to waste don't bother with the anchors. They will get chopped by the douchebags who have insisted on chopping them for years now. It's a shame because Rocky "Butt" could actually be a really fun place to climb, which would make it a much nicer place in general (i.e. less trash, grafitti, etc). But instead it's a pain in the ass place to climb. I never understood what goes on out there. Some friends of mine took the time to put an anchor in on top of a way fun route out there only to have them chopped two days later. Ridiculous. Not sure if it's the wacko-religious fanatics that hangout around there or deranged climbers who stalk the place for any new anchors to chop, but it's really bizarre, and sad. Kudos for taking the time and interest to put in new routes but unfortunately I wouldn't bother with the anchors.

Glad you guys are doing okay! Hey Bill, how's the toes????? I hope you get to keep them! Way to go, still topping out after a miserable night, good work!

I was thinking about taking a trip up to Squamish this weekend since we are having such a wonderful break in the weather... I've never been there before and was wondering how fast things dry out up there, and if it would be climb-able????

Are you interested in carpooling? Myslef and partner live in Portland and are going down approximately from 12/25 - 1/1, give or take a day. We would love to share the ride/gas expense!

My partner and I are looking to head down to J-Tree and possibly Red Rocks for the week between X-Mas and New Years and would love to find others to ride/share gas expenses with. Anyone interested????