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Oleg, Wanna do the Ridge with me? I'm still open anytime between July 5 - 14. Think about it.

Great jacket, great price! I love mine.

Now I get morning wood thinking about the Roadhouse Full Standard meal... MMMMM!!!!

WHY...I ask WHY...would you eat breakfast in Talkeetna ANYWHERE other than the Roadhouse? Seriously...have you lost your mind? I mean, come on...the full standard or the biscuits and gravy...PROVEN to be the best remedy for hangovers and extended stays in the Alaska range. You were probably poisoned as an omen for not eating at the Roadhouse that day. Tsk Tsk!

Yes, Latitude 62 is still open, my friends' band played there a few nights ago.

Update: I was just there in Talkeetna on Saterday and Sunday hanging out. I heard a little more about the closing of the Fairview. Here's what I was able to get: There was a woman who drank there, then drove and crashed, she is suing the Fairview for letting her leave. Apparently they were going to hold her but let her go, now she sued. Also, insurance for the Fairview is $500,000. The insurance company does not want to insure the current owner because he is doing a bad job working it. They want him to sell it, then insurance would most likely drop. It will certainly not be open any time this summer, and my guess is not until next year. There's always the West Rib, the VFW, and the TeePee though for Talkeetna bars. The Fairview though is my favorite and I hope it reopens sooner rather than later. I'll keep sniffing around for updates.

nah, it really isn't a big deal. I'm just wondering why people work so hard on a message board to put people down. I just don't get it. If this were a face to face conversation, this wouldn't happen. Is there some CC hierarchy? There shouldn't be. If you're an adult, act like one. It's funny, I see this happening at every message board I post or read on. There are always a few people who look for attention by gooning around and trying to be dicks to people. Why? If you work so hard to belittle me and a question I don't think is so outragious AlpinFox and Dru, tell me why. I had respect for you before AlpinFox and even considered you a valuable source for information, but now it's all out the window. I'm done posting in this thread so hijack it as you like. I think you know though that you are not benefiting anything and at best, being highly immature and degrading these boards as a whole. Think about that for the future.

look, you guys are totally taking this the wrong way. Dru, I don't want to embellish my climbing marks, I want to be honest about them. Say someone says "how many times have you climbed rainier?" If I have climbed it two times from paradise to summit, and then several months later I climbed to Muir, then stayed there for a week and climbed 3 different routes to the top over that period, what am I to say? Do I say that I climbed it 3 times and once I was on the mountain for a week doing different routes or do I say taht I climbed it 5 times? PS, when was the last time you guys got out and did a real climb?

AlpineFox, HEY ASSHOLE... I was asking the fucking question because I'm staying at Muir for a week. I am going to climb from Muir to the summit multiple times with different groups in order to get experience so that NEXT year I can be a volunteer ranger. Still...pricks like you have to take 15 minutes googling up pictures of chairs and cats with clown asses INSTEAD of reading the true question and giving a valid response. Simple question really... If i'm at Muir and I climb to the top X times, is it resonable to say that I climbed Rainier X times? OR, is there something else it would be qualified as. Save us both the time, (You especially with googling up something else) and just don't answer this one. Prick!

I'm also looking for more in depth info on the Lib Ridge. Monty, I called the ranger station yesturday and they told me the Carbon is pretty crevasse-ridden, but may still be negotiable for a little while. I spoke with Joe from the Summit Haus and he said he tried doing the Ridge a few weeks ago and it was an endless wallow of 30 inches of knee deep snow. Apparently it is still pretty snowy, but who knows. I'm going to call the White River Ranger Station on Thursday, when this one ranger is going to be there and I will talk to him about it. I'll let you know when I get more "beta" (I HATE that word)

I ask the question not because I'm going to stay on Rainier for a few days, and want to climb it as many times as possible, but want to make sure I phrase it right. I'm just curious generally curious as to what it would qualify as.

My buddy and I were talking about this yesturday. What does and does not qualify as a summit of a mountain? Say for instance, you climb Rainier. If you climb from Paradise to Camp Muir, summit and then descend...this is a summit. But, what if you climb to Muir, summit, return to Muir, then rope up with another team or what not, and climb to the top again. Does this count as a second summit? You did drop down 4000+ feet. Does it take climbing the entire mountain from the utmost base to make it a summit? I'm not arguing that you could climb to the top, descend 500 feet, go to the top again, and repeat, repeat, repeat, and say you summited X times. I'm asking if you descend a sigificant amount, can you count it as a summit? Guys like Mike Gauthier have summited Rainier 200+ times and I would bet they don't descend to Paradise inbetween each summit. I would have to say it is a gray area, maybe an opinion? I think if you descend enough, then go to the top again, you can say you summited multiple times. That's just my two cents.

I just might have to go to Schurman in a few weeks. Damn, thats one hell of a sunrise!

any updates on this Oleg? Anyone?

I don't agree with you moving it because no one checks in here. It got way more exposure in the Rainier thread. Plus I was also asking about conditions, but whatever. Argh!

No Oleg, I don't. I'm really openminded to anything...well almost anything. What do you have in mind? I can be on the mountain until as late as July 14th, then I ABSOLUTELY must be off, as I am leaving for Washington DC. My schedule is entirely clear from July 5-14.

Actually, it will probably happen in this order:

I would have hoo'd across the lake "SHUT OFF THAT F%^#ING BOOMBOX YOU REDNECK HICKS!"

eeeek! 4th of July weekend I am going to be at my lake house. It's the first weekend I'm back home in WA. I was really hoping on doing this chick there too. What about the NEXT weekend (July 8,9,10)? I really want to climb with Oleg. That'd be sick. Basically I plan on being on Rainier from the 5th-the 10th or 12th any way. I don't care where I am as long as I can climb the peak 2 times within that period of time (weather permitting). Get back to me VW.

Yeah i'll have to bring mine when I go up there in a few weeks.

Oleg, what's your status with your project on Rainier? Are you still doing it? I'm going to try and see if my last partner will do the Ridge with me.

Hey guys, I still want to do this traverse, I'm thinking sometime around August 1st. Problem is I don't have a partner, is anyone down to do a Bailey Traverse Trek with me? Let me know.

I've had a few people interested, still looking for a definite partner. Two weeks until I want to attempt it, is anyone really interested? Let's get it set up fast. I'm pumped, let's do it.

this was late october...just before Halloween. It was just after the first snow in Talkeetna.

So here's the deal. Talkeetna is one of my hang outs. I've been bummed the past several times i've gone up there and haven't been able to hang at the Fairview...good memories from that place. There are indeed several different lawsuits going on against the bar right now. It has been closed for a good 9 months, I was up there in October and it was closed, was still closed when I was up there a few weeks ago. Apparently the owners are also selling the bar, so until someone else steps up to the plate with a little dough, it will most likely remain closed. It's a total bummer. I guess i'm lucky I never got caught there with my fake ID. I've been going there since I was 18. Hopefully i'll be able to have a legal brew there soon:( I am actually planning on driving up to Talkeetna next weekend. I may have to just settle for the West Rib:(