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For all you old timers out there that climb at Beacon......the first pitch of the corner had two pins in it.....anyone remember where?
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See above for one persons definition.....
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What is Cap-and-Trade? Cap-and-trade systems, also known as allowance trading, can be best summed up as "pollution credits." What happens is that overall air quality goals are set for an area (such as the entire nation) and specific sources of air pollution (such as power plants, waste incineration facilities, etc.) are given a certain number of allowances, which represent the amount of various pollutants that the organization or facility is allowed to emit. Facilities that come in under that allowable limit because of air pollution control systems can then sell their leftover allowances to other facilities and organizations on the open market. This allows the facilities that buy up such allowances (pollution credits) to pollute more, because other facilities are polluting less. In theory, the system does have some potentially good points, by rewarding facilities that control air pollution and providing a means for those who cannot afford the latest air pollution technologies (or who have not completed upgrades) to buy some maneuvering room. A big problem with cap-and-trade systems is that they allow for certain parts of the country to become much more polluted than they should be. Overall air standards in the nation might be met, but people in some parts of the country get horrible air quality as a result, and this isn't fair...or healthy. Again, this is a problem caused when cap-and-trade systems are left too open-ended, which is generally the case. Cap-and-trade regulatory models have been effective in decreasing emissions of certain pollutants, due to their typical dispersal patterns or lower toxicity. But for mercury, it's a different story. Because mercury emissions tend to concentrate nearer their source than do some other air pollutants, a cap-and-trade program may result in harm to children in certain communities where high mercury emissions would be allowed to continue or to expand. And with mercury, the risk isn't just the air pollution; it's the fact that the highly toxic metal settles from the air into the waterways, and ends up in the tissues of fish that we consume. The cap-and-trade programs that have been proposed by the EPA may not address existing "hot spots" of mercury pollution and contamination, and may create new local hot spots for mercury, disproportionately impacting local communities, especially those depending on subsistence fishing. A decade-long study sponsored by the EPA, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the State of Florida in 2003 revealed that strong regulations of airborne mercury emissions produce swift, dramatic improvements in mercury contamination in local fish tissues. After south Florida waste incinerators were required to reduce their mercury emissions by 90% (they actually achieved 99% reduction), mercury levels in Everglades fish and wildlife declined by 60% in just 10 years. This study illustrates the feasibility of these measures to protect public health and how strong pollution controls are an effective approach to cleaning up the local environment and protecting public health. [source: Florida Department of Environmental Protection. "Integrating Atmospheric Mercury Deposition and Aquatic Cycling in the Florida Everglades: An approach for conducting a Total Maximum Daily Load analysis for an atmospherically derived pollutant," Integrated Summary, Final Report. October 2003. www.floridadep.org/labs/mercury/index.htm] good or bad. I like the cap part but not the trade part.
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did you read any of the above? What does "read" mean?
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Nope.....he is just a republicant
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That pin was an add-on. In other words lots of climbers have climbed that route and belayed from that same place with no pin ever. Why the huff now that it is gone?
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Progressives blame Obama for not delivering the changes That he promised? Well....he is not.
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Thank God you don’t own the site. Silencing people simply because you don’t agree with them is lame as lame gets. I don’t agree with a word that either of them write. I do however think they should have to right to say it. Heaven forbid they discuss rock climbing in a rock climbing forum. And to all the pope and raindawg bashers (me included)…..try not reading their posts, or replying. Pretty simple if you ask me. K
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I am going to have to agree with Pope on this one. As much as it pains me…..he is money on this. I disagree about sport climbing and bolts with Raindawg and Pope….but I have to give credit where credit is due. In all fairness……why didn’t the moderators just remove the lame pictures of clowns and let the discussion about sport climbing and how it has done good or bad for the sport continue? To all the naysayers…..if you don’t like the discussion….dont read it….and certainly do not post, but to torpedo / request the mods to screw with the thread…is lame.
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Porter. I help teach the AR class at Smith every year (although that is being put on hold, due to small kids at my house, for a spell) since 2004. I have found the experience to be fullfulling to say the least. Helping new climbers learn to place gear and have the head space to lead climb is great. Any amount of learning you can get from more experienced climbers is good, IMO. You will simply go out and rock climb with good hearted folks. I give a big thumbs up to the Mazamas.
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Pretty hard to prove a negative. I would say it is hard to prove that God actually exists……
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there is no god.
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Or Bill you can just not read any of it or not post? You dont have to topedo this thread into spray by posting clown shots.....
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[TR] Index Town Wall - Aries/Breakfast of Champion
kevbone replied to denalidevo's topic in North Cascades
Nice work. Breakfast of Champions (5.10a)....yeah right. -
Raindawg. You know I like you and respect you even if we disagree. But your statement does not jive. “It ain't all about "seeing them"? You got to be kidding? UH…..if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it fall….did it make noise? Same concept I believe. If you cannot see the bolts….then you don’t know they are there.
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As long as we are having a pissing contest..... I similclimbed the entire corner about 8 years ago with Ken (crazy Ken). Snow on ever ledge and the sun shinning.....I dont think it got about 0 degrees with the wind chill.
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How irresponsible for those who followed.
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Who asked who this question? suprise, i was the clue-less one - i didn't even much care when uva recieved its annual pummelling by virginia tech No worries.....football sucks. Especially college football…..
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Who asked who this question?
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Alan, thank you for your contribution to all of rock climbing. Your guide is the first guide I ever bought. Can't wait until the new one comes out, even though I have put climbing on the back burner and have committed to being a present father every weekend. I will get back to smith. Once again....thanks for all you have done. PS....welcome to cc.com. It's good entertainment......
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Obama is a dissapointment to say the least.