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Not a revision of the book. A new book. Different author, supposedly a local who's been climbing up here forever. Should be good stuff.

You can stop at Outdoor Experience in downtown Sandpoint and leave your drivers license and walk two blocks to the UPS store and photocopy Randall's Book (I'm assuming they've cleared it with him, I should ask Martin)and the new route folder that has accumulated there over the years. Also, new guidebook to North Idaho coming out soon by a guy named Thad. Haven't been up the Pack this spring but I was just at 4200' on a heavily forested and shady road and other than a couple streams crossing the road, it was dry and mud free. And bolder infested.

Leavenworth isn't in western washington but since it' mostly low angle lowball choss, you can claim it as yours. Wouldn't want to see it separated from it's brethren.

How about an old sport climbing harness that saw much abuse for years, three seasons in thailand and then has been retired to a plastic tub of chuff accessories for the last six years or so? I'd gladly donate it, since I can't fit into it anymore.

I did a fair amount of boldering there in the spring of '00, some of it is off limits and the rest is a hangout for homeless peeps and their love of smashing bottles on the rock. If you look at it from the other side of the hill, more like Pines and I-90, you'll see a water tower and some short bluffs, there's some good short steep power boldering up there, lots of broken glass, worth checking out. Even better is further east on Trent, after it turns into 290. I can't remember the crossroad but you'll see a bunch of rock and a road that takes off to the left if you're heading East.

Two hours and fifteen minutes to Peck Gulch from Sandpoint. Peck Gulch is a campground on Koocanusa that has amazing kiteboarding, super windy there often. Stone Hill, the main area, is another five minutes past Peck Gulch. The quartzite of the Koocanusa area is of highest quality and plentiful.

From where? Yes it is. It's also in Montana. And not really that close to Whitefish.

No idea but the mountains surround McCall and Cascade are predominantly granite, albeit high quality. Might you be thinking of the Riggins Limestone ?

Go out there kiting sometimes, the water on the main part of the lake can get pretty rough, you want a boat with some volume to it to be hanging out in that neighborhood. The rock looks awesome however, and there is a lot more really good (i.e., steep and juggy)looking stuff around the corner at the base of the Green Monarchs. Gneiss, or possibly quartzite. No established routes were visible from the water, although that doesn't mean anything.

Sandpoint gets more annual precip than Seattle. We got moss. Acess to the established chuffery (roped climbing) at the Schweitzer Rocks is supposedly still good but I don't know for how long, there are houses being built on all four sides of it, can't imagine it'll continue to be a good access scenario. Laclede has got some decent sport rigs up to 5.13 and some well neglected cracks of intermediate difficulty, well worth the trip if that's your cup of tea. Oh yea, the skiing here sucks too.

Where you from, or where are you now? Personally, I'm from Eastern Wash but living in the Inland Rain Forest of North Idaho (more rain annually than Seattle, why don't they advertise that fact to all the Californicators overrunning this place), Sandpoint specifically. Most of my rock gripping time is spent finding and developing new boldering areas (i.e., I KILL MOSS!!!)but lately growing webbed feet and gills seems more important... So where are the other I Da Ho's on this board lurking from?

I disagree. There is huge potential for trad climbing there, some of the best I've ever done. Every formation and many new routes was first climbed trad style, cams, nuts and kevlar slings to thread pockets (kevlar is stiffer and easier to thread one handed while hanging off some tufa pumped stupid than tubular webbing... In short, fun, dangerous, exciting trad climbing. And afterwords it gets bolted into submission for the fun of the masses. But you could still go to Tonsai or Rai Ley today and not climb out the trad and new route potential in a year. Any semi obscure wall back in the jungle with only a handful of routes is waiting for your cams and hooks and machete action, get after it.

Ok, Ok, I'm sorry. The hilarity of calling a guidebook and then centering on Banks Lank is on par with making a select classics guide of Exit 32 and then calling the book Cascade's Premier Rock Climbs. Banks is good but it's a small drop in a big bucket. Steve did hit on some great points tho,: It would be hard to suddenly become that chossy. Very true. Very, very true. I'm still laughing about the title tho.

hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahh!!!!!!!!!!lolololololololomfgomfgomgfojgdslkjgfkjdfgdinffieuhnfiefieufiueunfire That shit is just funny. Can't wait to see this "guide" book to "central" Washington. hahahaha

The horizontal limestone roofs you seek are right across the valley from the horizonatal gneiss roofs you just might see next month if you can keep from letting it all go up in smoke between now and then. Silly Kix, the good rocks out east....

<cue deliverence soundtrack>I would guess that this would be the least of your worries.<end deliverence soundtrack. If you're seriously interested pm me, or better yet, contact sargent_rock as he's there right now while I am in the not dry and warm north idaho climate.

Is Onion Creek limestone like China Bend/Marcus or is it quartzite like the stuff on the mountain behind Chewelah?

I know it. Those 600' walls in plain view from the hwy are so difficult to find.

Onion Creek having cracks is news to me, I would have thought that whole area limestone and therefore sport rigged. As for the Okanogan, I'm not real good with numbers but I'm fairly sure I can't count that high. As for beta, one must bring a sacrificial virgin, of either gender to the rituals and only then will your request be considered. Or you could grab your rack and go exploring.

All depends on your definition of "somewhat close". Two hours. But only an hour longer trip for most of the 206NATION. Or 360. Or 425. Or whatever fuckin new area codes you're rolling in Seatropolis this fine day.

Wow. Imagine if there was a place somewhat close, just as dry, just as warm, with steep solid rock on over 500 routes and thousands of boulder problems. And no scene. Now that would be cool.

The Dalles. Down behind the Shiloh Inn right of I-84. Dallesport, same exit, cross the river. Ist left, work your way down to the river. You see it. Horsetheif whatever it's name is, same exit, cross the river, up hill until you hit 14. East about 3 miles, look for signs and large groups of outdoor looking gumbies. Follow the trail.

And by the other way you obviously mean her boyfriend's load in your eye.

You're a moron for driving past all the solid dry rock on your way south then.

You can stem into the other crack if you're tall AND flexible, but it doesn't really help you. Getting out of that stem position and moving upward from it was harder than the tips crack. I don't think it's much harder than 12d on TR, FWIW. Leading it is a much different story. "Snickers to the chossroom. Calling Snickers to the chossroom. Thank you."