KaskadskyjKozak

but they are not things, they are living, so I can see how people will be willing to go farther for them, especially considering the cost of "things"

Hey Hemingway loved Cuba, that's good enough for me!

i don't think it's even relevent to talk about "the homeless" in this topic. you could make the same argument about how much we all spend on gear, vacations, our cars, or other luxury items and there are still homeless.

i'd like to legally buy cuban smokes. :-) it's kind of funny how we hold grudges for a 45+-years-gone-by bloody nose, but I guess that's the way it is. once that bastard kicks the bucket, i'm sure we'll move towards normal relations again.

Minx, I started climbing when my third kid was 2. I had always looked at the mountains and wanted to learn how to climb and finally got off my ass to do it. Since I didn't climb before I had no kids, I can't say whether I'd climb more or less. I climb as much as I can, but that's a lot less than folks I know without kids, or with grown-up kids. Sometimes climbing pushes on being selfish. I've climbed every father's day for 4 years running, for example. I've been leaning more towards one-day trips in the past year, so I can spend 1/2 the weekend with the family. I really like doing Friday night car camps with an early start and a one day ascent. Last year I did a few this way: Mt. Saint Helens, Ingalls, Whitehorse, Silverstar, and Dragontail. But to be honest half of those were backups due to my overnight climb plans being rained out. As for the risk factor, I err on the side of caution. I'm averse to doing very committing routes and don't see this changing anytime soon. Grade II-III is cool, but grade IV routes are probably out of the question for the foreseeable future.

Das Boot

That's some heavy stuff for Spray, DeC.

yeah, I was up there in Nov. Would be a good one in summer, I agree.

poor sobo

interesting. then the board would actually be about climbing since everyone would post in the new spray. brilliant!!!!

tangy

I think the weekend has started early for someone...

I thought they were $600?

tuna salad?

Just like a republican to speak for everyone. "us" isn't synonymous with "everyone", boner.

Actually you are stocking us with ready fodder for easy flaming.

You are an extremely persuasive counterexample to the thesis of intelligent design.

Oh, I've done the route. I'm looking for feedback from folks who have done it with their kids, and looking to team up. Skiing is out of the question. For the glissade, i'd be worried about the snow conditions and whether he can handle an ice axe. Maybe a team glissade would work best with me and he roped up with a 30m rope and I follow and arrest as needed.

Minx is ignoring you.

anyone complements your intelligence... lack thereof, that is.

um, nice trimming of the post... you were being dis'd.

I thought I had to take the bus to get on her good side...... that doesn't make any sense, Kbone... you aleady ride the bus, the short one that is.

I like your new sig. Terse and apropos.

Nitrogen? Ninny.

"What do you call a woman who uses the rhythm method" . . . . . . . . . . . . "A mother"