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I generally agree with ya on that. Being unmarriaged doesn't disqualify a person from having an opinion on how things should be but I wonder how informed that opinion can be.I agree that it is easier to communicate with someone on an equal basis if you have shared their experience. However, if you are in the position to counsel someone, you need not have shared that persons experience--your value comes in having studied many other people's experiences and being able to share a "best practices" collection (among other things--but that's the first example that came to mind). I think that marriage counseling would be, to some degree, experiential. So then the more times a person has been married, the better cousel that person can give? I mean, wouldn't you be able to communicate better with your clients if you had shared similar experiences? Again, communication is a broad term. Giving counsel is a bit more specific (but still encompases a lot). I don't need to have personal experience with what I am working on. I collect other people's experiences (phone calls taken in the complaint dept and the issue resolutions) and get a picture of what needs to be changed. In order to propose changes and see how they will be accepted, I conduct usability tests. Again, I need not have direct experience with the program. Sex. Hmmm....big part of a successful marriage. It was a joke.

In my current job, I am proposing changes to a huge organizational hierarchy tool. I have never built one. But I can provide excellent consulting on the project based on what I have learned about other processes like this one, other processes I have built, and the specific needs of this process. And don't you know, marriage has very little to do with sex anyway. HAHAHAHAHA. An "organizational tool" is nothing like a marriage. Your analogy is bunk. I'm not married and I can tell you that much. The marriage counseling by people not involved, ever involved, or trained in the art is laughable at best. If churchs they want to do some good they would help people see that it is probably "god's intent" that they seek help through their fellow humans rather than think he'll just fix shit by showing up at church, praying, etc. Youngster, the analogy is not about marriage/organizational tool; it is about priest/consultant. Take a logic & debate class before you try to sound like you know how to debunk an analogy. A Priest who provides marriage counselling is trained in exactly that--marriage counselling. Other counsellors, like a Psychiatrist, does not need to be insane to know how to counsel/treat someone who is. And the church does encourage people to seek help from other people. What do you think Priests are, robots? Furthermore, I am unaware of a Catholic Church that dissuades its members from supporting and helping each other out.

In my current job, I am proposing changes to a huge organizational hierarchy tool. I have never built one. But I can provide excellent consulting on the project based on what I have learned about other processes like this one, other processes I have built, and the specific needs of this process. And don't you know, marriage has very little to do with sex anyway.

And we can rename the Supreme Court the Supreme %#&$'s

I agree. I would also add that folks might consider actively developing their understanding of religions that they do not ascribe to.

Actually, Christ asked that people work through him. Furthermore, he told St. Peter, "You will be the rock upon which my Church will be built". Christianity is not a do-it-yourself religion. But, it does not require that you have an intermediary speak on your behalf to God. You get to pray to the Big Guy directly.

Hate is a strong word. Basically, he proposed that people could have a personal relationship with God rather than rely on an intermediary. Hence, the Christian Church (which the Catholic Church branched from due to many reasons including papal structure, etc but it still claims historical continuity with the original Christian Church). This relationship does not preclude a church per se.

The catholic church certainly has a coherent narrative, it's a bit of a strech to call it "well thought out", to my mind that would be both a coherent and consistant narrative, which isn't historically true of the church. That narrative has been around for thousands of years. How much longer do you think it needs to be studied, interpreted, and taught to qualify in your opinion as "well thought out"?

As opposed to one that is all done with modifications? Maybe "Divine Democracy" would be a big hit.

The really cool part is that after that happens, you get to replace a couple of the geezers with more people from your party who are even more conservative than the last batch!

Funny, but you are not the first guy to say that line to me...

Huge.

as many as I can fit into my bra, of course.

I missed the last one. Is there one tonight?

Good thinking. That right clicking wears me out. Oh, but switch that for me, I mouse lefty. Same problem though. I gotta stop typing, I am getting so very

Careful Dru, before you know if K-zak will tell you to read a history book....

And your assumptions are laughable.

She sounds pretty cool. Does she have a kidney to spare?

Strange. Wonder why he didn't go right to a supplier. China.

You seem to be having great trouble answering my above question regarding the particular points made in the movie that you deem fallacious. You are beginning to sound like Pat Robertson, relying on emotive innuendo devoid of substance. You hit the nail on the head. This from a guy who thinks Hitler was elected?

apparently one that rhymes with bleed. bad omen.

Which one is he supposed to be? The fossil or the pre-pubescent boyfriend?

Salon is the last word in scientific study to be sure.

True, but he does seem to find the time to try and outlaw late term abortion WITHOUT a mothers health clause. In other words, your ability (duty) to reproduce is more important that you as a human being. Gotta love this guy.

Hopefully back up his ass.