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Beautiful, never climbed over the water. Question regarding dealing with the wet shoes for the next climb? Just wear them wet and they do fine??

Happy for you Layton. It is tough getting started, 5 years from now it will all be gravy. Don't forget the dirtbag spirit that got you there. Eric

Every dirtbag needs some money, it is my belief that it is impossible to do for free. Come on you overpaid westsiders, share the wealth and sponsor a dirtbag. You could make them wear a t-shirt with your photo on all crux pitches. What if I could get it done under a 501©3 so the donations are tax deductable?

you expressed interest first, it is yours NYC. Um, ... Why don't you have your girlfriend come pick it up? Where are you at buddy and I will get it to you, I live in the valley. E

I am at a crossroad in life, trying to make a decision as to whether go dirtbagging next year or go make money. Since I have dirtbagged so much in the past 6-7 years, I am considering going the financial route. If I do go financial, I plan to sponsor an ex-student to take the winter off and go dirtbagging for my vicarious thrills. With that in mind, it seems that there are so many of you out there with far too much money. If you each put up $50 per month, we could sponsor a bunch of folks to go out dirtbagging and post us their adventures. Think about the latest road trip by Teleross, WOW I enjoyed the posts. Imagine if we had about 5-6 folks out there each experiencing their youthful adventures and sharing them with us. What a beautiful thing. Anyone interested?

Hold on a minute, is this a contract offer? Outline the duties and financial renumeration, and I may be interested.

Ah, but let's be clear Sherri Darlin, when I flirt with you I feel it.

And I think everyone skimmed over Treetoad's "Hey, nice tooth" far to quickly. I grew up in Darrington, line would have been gold!

Most of the women I flirt with I have no interest in. It is merely fun to flirt. The quickest way to get a guy to quit hitting on you might be to say "yes," It will often get me to quit flirting anyhow. Then I will run, run away.

heck Mythos, at my age it is far more about the journey than the destination. I would rather fail having fun, then succeed in boring fashion.

Spot, I have a soloist that I would give to YOU for free. Let me know if you want it. E

Dirtbag: could have money, but chooses to live cheap and climb instead. Bum: living like a dirtbag is not his/her choice. Dirtbag: Homeless by choice. Bum: child support payments keep him homeless. Dirtbag: unemployed by choice. Bum: wishes he could be working

heard on spokane radio: "How would you like to go half'sys on a bastard child?"

I dirtbagged 5 months at Redrocks one year living out of my sports car. But I was nothing compared to the guy who showed up looking for a climbing partner. Had a small whiteish colored car that was as filthy as anything I ever saw, until I saw the driver. The guy stunk, and as soon as he left his vehicle you could see folks hiding their valuables. He was true dirtbag, I was merely pretending. For much of the following two years I worked full time as a teacher while living homeless bagging out in the woods. Still, merely a pretender.

perhaps you call it the "FB Lifestyle Award."

So .... We need a long stick clip to climb it now? Seriously, and assuming that this is not a troll, it would be a shame to a beautiful chunk of rock if they start the chop/rebolt wars. I think more people get a kick out of watching climbers on that route, than we climbers get out of doing the route.

Bill, if we ever share a campfire, I will supply the beer while you tell the stories. sounds like you have some good ones. Eric

And I guess here is where I have to admit that, if money were no concern to me, I would gladly take a ride to the top of Everest. More of my hypocracy. I am a one of them too.

I am willing to bet that if there was a gondola up to Muir, that within two years 80% of the climbs would start with a gondola ride. Merely my opinion.

An on Rainier we only built the same things half way up the mountian. That should give us moral high (low?) ground.

To me it is the same hierocracy that we often apply to the rest of the world. • Free Tibet: yet we don’t give the wallowas back to the nez pierce. • Quit cutting down the rain forests: yet we continue to cut sequoia trees • Roads in the mountains are bad: yet we drive as high on (Hood, Rainier, Glacier peak, …) as we can get. • A gondola, WTF!: Yet the helicopter to base camp on Denali is always busy. Or you could just take it down to the irrelevant rhetoric that we constantly hear about ourselves: • Land of the free, home of the brave: but I will get a ticket if I don’t wear a bicycle helmet in Spokane, of if I drive without a seatbelt. • Too many crowds at the crag: yet I am always there adding another person

WMI teach that when it is at a boil temp that is enough. In otherwords, boil for 0 minutes. Makes logical sense to me.

And let me also say Congrats on the film. It is always nice for someone to get recognized for hard work. My daughter and I enjoyed the many hours of the ancient history presented last night. Great eduction. I personally have no problem with what you do for a living, merely that it conflicts with all of the ranting that you do.

I think the primary difference is that on one you have a well thought out argument based upon facts, experience, and reason; whereas on the other you have mere senseless rantings: probably why you are willing to address one and not compare the other. They seem to both raise a couple identical questions. When does one have the right to make the decision to tamper with what they find in nature, and when should one leave it the way they find it. How is a dry waterfall in a remote mountain more sacred than tombs that were built with the blood of many?

Oh no way Feck, you gotta share. Others of us are the same weight and need the emergency medical information. Share buddy, share.