
HRoark
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Quit bitchin', you're the moderator.
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Is that why he gets off watching himself naked?
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That statement, in particular, carries no message and adds nothing to the discussion. Such a statement can neither be refuted nor defended. Bring something concrete to the table and let's chat.
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Nice general statement, care to follow it up with an actual thought about what you would like to revise? (And it's C-O-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N)
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EXACTLY!!! They have completely shifted focus from constituent representation to simply self-preservation and power accumulation.
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I like mine, maybe you just got a bum pair. Although, it seems like several others have complained about the seam issue.
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Well, nobody said you could mention snacks. I had a Snickers bar at about 9:30...and water, lots of water.
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I admit that I don't have all the info and answers at hand. What I do submit is that most of these people bashing GWB don't either. Regarding your point 3, who do we blame? Bush or Congress? Who failed in their charge? I'd say both based on the legislation, but nobody seems to recognize that; they only bash Bush.
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He ought to know; if I remember correctly Thomas Payne WAS rather a scoundrel until he got lucky with a few printed broadsides.
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I don't see why we can't have a nice discussion and debate. If you would like to call me names, let's do it in person. I have given no opinion or taken no stance in this thread. Roark
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Salami on sourdough with mustard, mayo, and sharp cheddar, and an apple for later.
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So, the definition of patriotic acts, per se, varies with the individual? What about taking the Constitution into account? Or the supporting theories, beliefs, and reasons of the Founding Fathers in setting up things as they did?
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No need to beat people over the head, thanks for sharing. So, are you saying you hold no allegiance to your home country? Just wanting some clarification.
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This came out of a few posts that chuck wrote in another thread. What is your definition of patriotism? What is it based on? Discuss...
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Wow, that was a succinct argument. Thanks.
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What I find interesting is that your definition of "patriot" may differ from someone elses, and this isn't directed at you chuck. Does one's definition of "patriotism" hinge on what they view as important, wonderful and unique about the U.S.A.? It is an interesting question.
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I really don't think it's a logical argument to justify misdeeds by saying they're no worse than other misdeeds. I don't know what common thread you are thinking of for those other Presidents you mentioned, but I don't think any of them invaded another country with less reason than Bush did in Iraq. The fact that he obviously lied to the American people in order to justify the war is repugnant. You could probably make the case that some on your list up there lied to go to war. But if you did, it wouldn't justify Bush's misdeeds. The Vietnam War is probably the best comparison you could make. Do you think Bush is not so bad, because, "heck we attacked Vietnam!" Johnson decided not to run for a second term because of his misdeeds in SE Asia. Nixon was impeached. I'd settle for either of those solutions to the current problem. I would say, "I'd settle for the JFK solution" too, but, of course, I won't, because that would be stupid. By the way, though the Iraq war is my biggest beef with GWB, I also really do not like his economic (tax cuts in times of nearly unprecedented budget deficit) or environmental (speaks for itself) policies. ETA: Oh yeah, I forgot to add my dismay about the continuing erosion of civil liberty under the Bush administration Bush is selling our soldiers, our country's prestige in the world, and our children's and grandchildren's economic and environmental health to the most convenient bidders. He sucks. He should be impreached, but I'll settle for him getting voted out of office. Chuck; If I misrepresented what I was saying, then I'll back up. I'm not justifying anything Bush has done by trotting out other Presidents. It just strikes me as odd that so many people jump onto a moral outrage bandwagon against Bush like all the previous Presidents have done no wrong. Clinton, for one, sent soldiers into combat more often than any other President since FDR - why wasn't he "selling our soldiers"? Because he was on your side? And, honestly, do the liberals on the left really give a shit about our military? No. About this "erosion of civil liberties", last time I checked Congress made the laws, so we need to look to them if they are passing laws that are eroding civil liberties. Look at the system, it seems illogical to place all blame on Bush when 460+ men and women have to decide on a bill before it ever gets to the Prez. Why don't you look into how many times other Presidents have used "Executive Order" to accomplish things (such as garner more power for the Executive Branch) outside of the lawmaking process. What about cooking up a scheme with your Secretary of Housing and Urban Development to attempt to dismantle a LEGAL, GOVERNMENT REGULATED industry? What about the gutting of our intelligence services that compromised our ability to track our potential enemies? Everyone is crying so loudly about Bush because he's right in front of us, but they forget all the bad shit that happened under other Presidents. That's all I'm saying.
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This is your opinion, don't play it off as fact or common knowledge. I love how you anti-freedom , socialist, big government fucks all say, "All must do this and agree with me 'cause I think so." Fuck all you guys, make up your own political mind and act for yourself. You are funny...real funny...we are losing civil rights left and right (no pun intended) under this administration... You know, I hear that from all you limp-wristed lefties, but no one seems be able to give me more details. Make a list, bucko.
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This is your opinion, don't play it off as fact or common knowledge. I love how you anti-freedom, socialist, big government fucks all say, "All must do this and agree with me 'cause I think so." Fuck all you guys, make up your own political mind and act for yourself. He didn't say anybody "must" do anything. He just implied that you're unpatriotic if you support GWB. Surely that's a fair card to play considering recent history. I'm not happy with him, either, Chuck, but supporting him doesn't make someone unpatriotic. That is a very subjective statement it can't be proven. And, come on, has GWB done anything worse than any other president? Nixon? Kennedy? LBJ? FDR? (to name a few).
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Nope and Nope. I just get tired of idiots like CBS making stupid fucking absolute pronouncements that are actually their own opinion. That would be like me saying, "Anyone who doesn't carry a gun for their protection deserves to be a crime victim." That's stupid and I would never say it.
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This is your opinion, don't play it off as fact or common knowledge. I love how you anti-freedom, socialist, big government fucks all say, "All must do this and agree with me 'cause I think so." Fuck all you guys, make up your own political mind and act for yourself.
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I think March. I think Trask is advertising a February screening, but it'll cost you your underwear (and probably your dignity).
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Outside Magazine [Seattle] event: free food/drink!
HRoark replied to Gary_Yngve's topic in Events Forum
Do we get free smokes and free shots at Dan? Like in a dunk tank or something? -
Yeah, for all those pre-dawn approaches you do to the boulders. Right?