glassgowkiss

Some good info on CL: http://www.traces.org/charleslindbergh.html 1: McDermott was never a national hero. 2: McDermott never tempered beliefs or his mouth for the sake of our efforts in Iraq. 1. you are missing the point 2. republicans are in no position to issue any judgments at this moment. as the matter of fact one could hope for a lot of investigations about republicans and their activities. particularly about no bid contracts and presenting forged documents prior to going to war. 3. i wonder what do you say to personal involvement of gwb and saudis. remember it was saudis, who directly attacked US on 9/11. i did not see list of iraqi citizens entering hijacked planes. so my advice would be to pipe down your rhetorical bullshit and look more carefully into your own yard. because might turn out that a lot of your idols will be doing a lot of time after it's all set and done.

now 9/11 happened under bush- didn't it? the fact of the matter is it happened over 9 months after taking the office, hence blaming previous administration is absurd!. and his administration included people directly negotiating pipeline with taliban. coincidence? use your brain!

Goddamnit! I posted an objective response that established that one of the premises (Taliban leaders visited Texas) is true, the other not true (Bush hosted them...although a conservative blog I searched indicated he "gave approval for the visit"); I passed no judgment otherwise! The fact that is was in 1998--pre 9/11 and pre GWB as prez--is also relevant, don't you think? George Bush was a Texas Governor and his approval shows more then just bad judgment. Between the Taliban taking over Kabul in September 1996 and the Group of Eight (G-8) summit in the summer of 2001, neither the administration of president Bill Clinton nor that of his successor, President George W Bush, ever designated Afghanistan as a terrorist or even a rogue state: the Taliban were wined and dined as long as they played the Pipelineistan game in Central Asia (see Pipelineistan revisited, December 24-25, 2003). Unocal - which had put the CentGas Pipeline Consortium in place - hired Henry Kissinger as a consultant. Unocal also hired two very well-connected Afghans: Zalmay Khalilzad, a Pashtun with a PhD from the University of Chicago and former Paul Wolfowitz aide, and Hamid Karzai, a Pashtun from Kandahar. In 1996, both Khalilzad and Karzai were ultra-pro-Taliban. Karzai is now Afghanistan's US-backed ruler. Khalilzad also made splendid career moves: Bush-appointed National Security Council member (working under Condoleezza Rice), "special envoy" to Afghanistan (only nine days after the Karzai government was sworn in), and current US ambassador. The Taliban didn't want to play ball: every time, they wanted more money and more investments for the roads and the infrastructure of their ravaged country - until an exasperated Washington decided to finish them off. This was discussed in Geneva in May 2001, at the G8 summit in Genoa in July 2001, and finally at a Berlin hotel, also that July, a meeting involving US, Russian, German and Pakistani officials. Asia Times Online later learned in Islamabad that the US plan was to strike against the Taliban from bases in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan before October 2001. here is your soorce of the info: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FE18Aa03.html

yeah, right. maybe we should also remember a visit of Taliban leaders to texas and hosted by..... gwb the shrub!

I'm not interested in engaging a nut like yourself in any debate yet alone associate with you. Clear enough? need a tissue? don't get your panties in a wad! i am just simply pointing flaws in your thinking from the past. clear enough? still waiting on the answer on vets question.....

one might argue eric harris and dylan klebold were gun collectors too, sort of. and how would you ensure they can be disabled and stay disabled?

that was an argument about Afghanistan some time ago. somehow it didn't work in our favor.

only congress can proclaim a war. supreme court has nothing to do with war proclamation.

It already is.....ever heard of Habis Corpus? Or illegal wire tapping.... Tell us all about Habis Corpus, boner. Here you go. Man, you are dense. And humorless. i don't find anything funny when people are dying. do you? btw what about that support for the vets? somehow when it comes to facts all you offer is an empty rhetoric.

You make it sound so easy. not easy, but stupid. as an occupational authority it is the us government, who implements the law.

i am sure the same due process exists in a country called Iraq.

So the ganster down the street who shot the little girl and owns a gun is a "law-abiding citizen? so is the guy who goes on a shooting spree in your local mall or a post office......

I can't even possibly claim to claim that I comprehend the complexities of the factions, in-fighting, and chaos in Iraq. so shut the fuck up.

Yes, because our gunowners are law-abiding citizens and the Iraqis are insane, hot-blooded, trigger-happy nuts. and you'd know, since you are a middle east expert. weren't you for the war in the first place? since you knew that Sunnis, Shi'a and Kurds (there is no such thing as Iraqis) are "insane, hot-blooded, trigger-happy nuts"- why are you surprised at the current state of the affairs there?

po polsku to sie mowi chuj ci w dupe. still waiting for the straight answer on the question. let me repeat: you voted for bush and this administration. they implemented 120 days waiting period for any benefits for front line soldiers. so how exactly do you support them? here are some links: http://www.iava.org/ http://booksforsoldiers.com/ http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ at least instead of empty rhetoric you can at leat sign some petitions.

look- let's put it in the perspective. the guy placed 2 bolts and then pre-placed all the gear. in fact he made it into sort of bastardized sport climb. the climb is graded 13d (again- unconfirmed- one might ask what other routes of that grade did he climb in the past?). 13d or 8b sport is not that high for sport climbing. i think it's probably great personal achievement, however i don't think it doesn't warrant a write up on pages of "Hot Flashes". simply if magazines start writing about every 8b, even in the US, it will be virtually impossible to sift through the mountain of bullshit. historically editors at "climbing" did a really shitty job of checking the stories and were notorious for publishing and promoting what boils down to a complete spray of their self-adoring circle jerk clownpunchers. looks like they are back to their old form Dewd - This is a alot of time and energy worrying about the small details of meaningless junk. Elitism spray is everywhere in every sport. Let's go climbing and make up our own epics and FA's do you like litter? shit like that triggers in me the same reaction as seeing cigarette butts at the base of a climb. i think it also takes away from ascents like this: http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/pearsonthegroove/

kk (is it short from kkk?)- at least i have spine. now back to the topic- maybe you can share with us exactly how do you support vets coming back from the war? for once give one straight figgin answer!

look- let's put it in the perspective. the guy placed 2 bolts and then pre-placed all the gear. in fact he made it into sort of bastardized sport climb. the climb is graded 13d (again- unconfirmed- one might ask what other routes of that grade did he climb in the past?). 13d or 8b sport is not that high for sport climbing. i think it's probably great personal achievement, however i don't think it doesn't warrant a write up on pages of "Hot Flashes". simply if magazines start writing about every 8b, even in the US, it will be virtually impossible to sift through the mountain of bullshit. historically editors at "climbing" did a really shitty job of checking the stories and were notorious for publishing and promoting what boils down to a complete spray of their self-adoring circle jerk clownpunchers. looks like they are back to their old form

You've got some serious anger there, mister green card. Can't even fuckin' vote, skinny little wannabe. Maybe you should take it home, punk. and you are a complete idiot. first of all i can vote since some time you ball licking sheepshag. so get your facts in order before you open your mouth here you fat jizz puke. and talking about taking it- maybe you should stop taking it up the ass you gerbil spelunker.

Obama worries me (lack of experience, unknown quantity), bush= great experience and high quality. u really are a moron!

Chuck is replying directly to that incendiery fuckhead punk GGW, who is reference FW and myself by name repeatedly. no simply put i am calling your washed up bullshit. so who is the fuckhead punk now jizzface?

Sorry, dude, but I'm all for giving our veterans all the support they deserve for their service. And I'm sure FW is too. But go ahead an manufacture our supposed positions on these matters and perform gratuitous personal attacks just for the fuck of it. like what exactly have you done yourself? have you even sign a single petition? T-A=0

I am not arguing ANYTHING about why we went in or didn't. no shithead, you lost your right to argue by voting for him. you still did not answer my question: why is there 120 days wait for the benefits and why over 70 thousand of families of front line soldiers are at or below poverty level?

wonder where the hard core defenders of the stupid are hiding now? wonder how kk would explain a 120 days wait period for soldiers coming back from the war zone? wonder also how would he explain the fact that almost half of the families of soldiers serving in the war zones are at or below poverty level? maybe he can also explain how does this policy make this country more secure?

I agree....but stopping the "blow job" is not as equal as stopping the "cash cow" of money made from the occupation. not to mention no bid contracts.