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We sure the hell are pilgrim! Have a nice day yankee!

I'm up for it JGowans! Time and place??????????????

Funny but you forgot 13. Decide to try out gear bought in #2 above by frontpointing up tree in backyard. Fail to get ice tools out of wood. Pull really hard to dislodge ice-tool and get smacked in face, blood everywhere. Listen to wife telling friends between bouts of hilarious laughter that she's married to an extreme tree climber

Forrest is also shown in a pic of him doing a tyrolean traverse across some desperate Patagonian river. Nice work Forrest- how'd you get your pics included in catalog?

I used TAT for Kalhitna and they were good. Fly out was delayed and TAT let us bunk in one of their mechanics trailers so we wouldn't have to pay for accomodation which was nice.

I am scottish and Trask is correct in his assumption regarding animal love. I am going to try and shag a few goats on the Ptarmigan Traverse this summer.

Outstanding stream of consiousness Layton, your use of the english language to formulate insults is a lesson for us all.

a guy named alan m. told the world so on ukclimbing.com after doing an XI, 10 so he probably knows although stevie haston said there is nothing remotely hard in Scotland and they are all tossers. Stevie Haston has been in France too long and has become effectively French. He is more concerned about portraying himself as an angry young man who nobody understands and selling picture to climbing mags of him doing one arm pullups while stripped to the waist. He knows nothing about Scottish climbing standards and is now a french wanker and who likes the french at the moment.

Dru: Kiss my butt! We Scots were climbing M8 long before you yanks "discovered" mixed climbing and fucked it all up with bolted sport mixed climbs and funky leashless tools. Tosser

Hey glassgowkiss, I went to school in Glagow, Scotland and have had, and given a few glassgowkisses! You from the old country like me????

I agree with Muffy and Col Vspanker. From what I have seen they learn to use their body and do dynamic moves much faster than an adult. My climbing has actualy improved by watching how my son uses his feet. Having an incredible body weight to strength ratio also helps the little buggers aswell They are like gibbons at that age.

Thanks, It's really interesting seeing a child get into the sport/lifestyle. I haven't pushed him atall and he genuinely loves it. He's started buying gear with his allowance and has some cams already. Being a dirtbag I am steering him to buys cams and gear that I think I need and then borrowing his gear. If you can't take advantage of your own child , who can you take advantage of!

I know this site is full of cynics and spraylords and i'm risking dersion and accusations of chestbeating but had to share the fact that I watched my 10 year old do his first lead climbing at the gym last night and I am so proud I 've been smiling all day. He's been in a program at the gym . He climbed a 5.7 for warm up, then a 5.10a he'd climbed before and then a 5.10a he'd never done and flashed it. It honestly brought tears to my eyes. He doesn't seem to be too worried about falling ( my problem) and the gym's done a good job training them on clipping, backclipping etc. Any other old climbing farts got kids climbing?

Planning a trip to Mt. Kenya with some friends and am interested in normal route on Mt.Kenya. Any of you worlwide alpinists out there done the route?. I have Cam Burns guidebook but looking for some first hand beta in terms of difficulty , gear, time etc.

I went up Denali two years ago and used Millet onesports. I also own Scarpa Alphas and they are not warm enough for Denali. Of the multitude of climbers I saw on the routes. 100% wore plastic, I'd say 50% with the yellow Asolo's, 25% with Inverno's and the remainder with Millet onesports. You might escape frostbite in perfect conditions but they are few and far between on that mountain. Scarp Alphas from my experience are not sufficient either. Hope this helps

Weather's clearing for rest of week. Anybody got any ideas for mid-week outling in Olympics with low avy danger. Mt. Ellinor for instance