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Thanks Toast! Bookmarked it! Cheers!

Hand drilling brings back some great memories..bang, twist, bang, twist...puff, puff, bang, twist... Much more satisfying and karmically correct than a power drill, though I have used both. Just sold my Hurricane, loved it, a sexy piece of debauchery it was. I still have my pika drill buried some place. I can look for it if yer desperate. Nothing more satisfying than a fresh drilled line.

Mt Charleston crash, pretty surreal up close. http://nvahof.org/_original_site/c54_crash.html

Could really just chop it and use the money for something more ethical? Starving kids, ravaged watersheds, native fish, innercity donations to help illiteracy programs or poverty,or Animal rescue. Redamaging a fragile ecosystem is, for me the furthest need from my mind.

Super intuitive but cool non the less.

I think JBC is spot on.

This sums it up perfectly. We waste an immense amount of resources just living. I want people to climb and have fun but make sure to mitigate as much damage and waste as you can to allow for the next (if there is) generation. You really are a brilliant one. This really is an entertaining thread. Thanks for helping demystify climbing in the new millenium

Have you always had this problem CB? All we want to do is climb and "respect the resource"...apparently that term is unfamiliar with you.

You are one toxic dude, a sad representative of todays climbing/world community.

I tried...you did not seem to understand.

I think you are mistaking an opinion in general, with a comment made about climbing style on particular route.

What amazes me is that you equate climbing ability with the ability to voice your opinion or have a say on a matter. In this case then...only people with wealth have a say, only famous people have a say, and finally only corruption is allowed to speak? Sorry state of affairs if this is how you perceive this topic and other people.