minx

allison, not that erik needs defending or anything but it sounds like he might have a reason to be pissed. since he has the resources to do something about it why not? i had a similar experience this w/e and i would love to be in erik's position. dude almost killed myself and my companion. you bet i'm still pissed about it.

old sux! due to circumstances beyond my control (ok maybe not) i was up late each night from thurs-sun last week, i was toast until tuesday and i'm not real sure i was much better on weds truthfully. old sux but i still get my arse up and do whatever i'm supposed to the next day! kids today!

Who are you married to? Sorry you had to give away your man-hood give it away? he's lucky someone would take it!

i'll leave the obvious response to this to the many 2 minute experts i'm sure this site has. iaxx, glad you're in one piece to recount that brief moment of brain fade. hope your partner is too. rapping off anything is scary. i hate those times when there doesn't seem to be any good rap anchor to be had.

iaxx, i agree. nothing says class and sophistication like mold and crust.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm or nummmmmmy! or TASTY!!!

She actually sings this with the accompaniment of a small banjo; it's sorta scary. Greg- you're violating that old rule that says, "what happens in the mountains stays in the mountains." The ukelele is only brought out on special occasions. Can't trust you with anything can I? Oops, sorry. Minx joined in so fluidly on the bongos that I figured this was something you guys did regularly for other people, as well. EEESSH Greg! You really can't be trusted with anything! it was nice of you to carry the bongos though. i'm nearly phobic aboup rappelling. stupid sure, but true. if unfamiliar or unsure i always knot each end and always use a prussik or autoblock. i think i check my rap set up more than anything else i do which means i'll probably die in a tragic incident b/c i tied in wrong and didn't check my knot. i like fern's ABCs

Whoa! Take a step back there big guy! all i did was wonder why the hell that pitch suddenly has 3 fixed pieces. i pointed out that i figured it was from 3 separate people no someone having a hard time placing gear. maybe i didn't phrase it well in the first place but that pitch hardly needs 3 pieces placed. now there's 3 fixed? shit no one's going to need to place crap on that pitch anymore. sorta takes one fun aspect of it out of the climb no? i, of all people, was not baggin on a someone, new or not, for getting a piece stuck. i am just really surprised there is suddenly 3 pieces up there. i have quite recently donated to the greater alpine gear pool.

erik you've never questioned an oddity such as this? whatever

erik- again, i'm not making fun of anyone. what i don't get is how so many pieces are getting stuck on that 3rd pitch. if it's going to continue to gobble gear no one is going to need/get to place anything to do that pitch. i think that's a great route for someone to do a first alpine style lead. it just seems odd to me that all of a sudden there is 3 fixed pieces on the 3rd pitch.

oh cripes! don't turn this into something that it's not. i'm nothing more than a newbie wannabe gaper myself. i don't think anyone is bashing newbies. i personally am sorta perplexed by the fact that anyone...regardless of experience...got gear stuck there, let alone multiple people (i'm assuming that it wasn't the same person who got 3 pieces stuck)

chuck if the cordial note is directed to me, sorry i can't make it. Plans this AM climbing this PM. besides, i made some friends promise to slap me if i ever planned on climbing toothie from that side again. climbed it last week and couple times earlier in the summer. have fun though!

hey chuck i didn't say it wasn't worth placing gear at all. i don't think it needs that much gear. what i really can't figure out is how they got gear stuck on the tooth. fine so i'm a condescending bitch. it's the tooth...fine practice placements but getting it stuck? i'd love to have the balls to solo it but i don't. i like my rope. have a nice day

Another funny thing about the stuck cams on the tooth is that it's more pieces than that 3rd pitch needs.

oh great Greg can spread right wing rhetoric and hand out guns to the locals

Muffy, both are accurate. Change is good!

sorry erik, i'm out of sheep. thanks for the change

liar

nice TR.....geezer but i think that sounds like chestbeating

i had the prophets for a while. nice tool but a bit big for my hands. i've inherited a some shrikes. i haven't used them much but they feel pretty good. more comfortable in my hands go buy the cobras. that's what i would've done if i hadn't inherited the shrikes for free.

so?

so?

Do you mean F. Ewe? NO, bunny lovin is good enough for me.... well ya know they say something about fucking like bunnies....

Do you mean F. Ewe?