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definitely--by all means add all the adjectives you want. there are many pitches that should be rate "5.8-myass" i've also climbed 5.wtfmademethinkicouldclimbthis and 5.yeehaw i forgot 5.gawddammit

no no no dru. that's 5.fun or even fun+ depending on

5.easy 5.fun 5.hard 5.death

maybe dave is from minnesota?

i wish i'd been on belay for my first rappel. it was scary.

a new avatar image perhaps?

there's something fundamentally wrong w/that.

aww dru--go have a mountain dew

Isn't it a bit early, Rudy? no! absolutely not.

goat, relax...you're just on therapy overload.

alright--this whole thread raises the question what is the equivalent for women. if men are pussy whipped, what are straight women?

.....the bane of my life, but yet desired to some extent. and yet men continue to claim women are the confusing gender.

i want what i want when i want it and i usually want it right now.

No doubt!! I havent even met a women who knows or understands what she wants no woman knows or understand what she wants until she knows and understands that it can change from day to day.

hey bill-- all i'm saying is that if you set an expectation live up to it. i'm sort of doubting there was a lot of disgusting sappy chatter going on every 10 min via sat phone.

seems like a reasonable solution but they had other reasons for bailing as well. you would've set the expectations in the right place then. no problem. my friend was not given any real expectation of when her SO would be back so at least she wasn't watching the calendar. she was just plain worried the most of the time. but there was no problem for him to decide how long to make his attempt b/c of that.

not arguing your point about the phone. it probably creates more hassle/expectation than it's worth. my point is that since he created the expectation, it doesn't make him pussy whipped b/c he chose to meet those expectations. and again, it sounds like a small factor in the overall decision. how worried would you be if your wife/ISO was up there and you were expecting to hear from her on X day or so and a week past that you still hadn't heard anything? OK if your wife/ISO is a climber they might understand but non-climber probably wouldn't get it. a friend who is not a climber went through this with her SO this year. she was quite good about it but worried the whole time. from talking to her, she just really couldn't understand the process and the potential variation in schedule.

I agree with you about the frightening and extensive control over what information is spoon-fed to us. Just looking at the small number of people who own the majority of communications is enough to give one pause. what's even scarier is to look at who those people are.

again--it's not about the phone. the fact is that b/c of the phone he had committed to communicating w/his wife. she probably would've stirred up quite a rucous b/c she hadn't heard from him afterall. and AGAIN (DPS chime in here if i'm wrong) it sounds like there were other factors involved in the decision. perhaps some of you studs need to get enough backbone to admit to yourselves that DPS probably saved himself and the area rangers a lot of hassle by not leaving his wife wondering.

i am disturbed by the extent to which bush has been able to manipulate the american public into giving him a free pass to play around with basic civil liberties. i only that the latest round of bad press and the memos from Britain gaining more media attention will help curb him. perhaps if his support in the public continues to dwindle those in congress will feel less obligated to do his bidding.

oh bill--what an idiot. no one likes a spineless jellyfish of man. but wtf? if you gives someone a time frame you might want to through that into consideration. it sounds like that wasn't the only reason they turned around. i know of another party who turned back b/c of the weather and other factors. sheeit. it's not like he was trying to get home in time to catch the 8pm showing of the blockbuster hit "emotional melodrama only chicks will enjoy" at the cinerama.

whatever griz you're obviously making the right choice in your marital status for you. i don't see any of the women on this board bitching about their husbands/ISOs etc expecting the same thing.

i read that as "being a snafflehound means never having to say your horny"

this thread is priceless. everyone is is in perfect character.

RRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN....nope.............wait a minute.....just kidding. nothing to see here folks. as you were. go back to your dinner.