minx

i don't think you could even inspire an argument about that.

Quit it!! BE NICE! The only thing I could show you with ropes, that you don't know....would be for other purposes than climbing. hmmmm....unless you're talking about sailing, i'm guessing rumr knows as much as you about non-climbing uses for ropes

ouch! the truth hurts sometimes

i might be willing to clip a beer or climb a case at the trail head. but all that nasty hiking and climbing just interfers with drinking.

nice TR. love that marmot pic! sounds like a fun trip. looking forward to my trip to the enchantments even more!

Sad that Bush is the barometer of idiocy. Sad but true.

he still sounded less like an idiot than bush did.

would a real "lady" hang out on this site?

wow--this is great. i don't even have to get on my religious tirade soap box. y'all covered that nicely.

no wonder you "ladies" have dating problems i don't have any dating problems at all.

there's no little smilie with ropes or climbing. i'm not sure we can have a complete picture of the evening. i mean there will definitely be ropes used right? it's not soloing it's a date!

no he's not. he's on his way back to the store for bread.

hey, aren't you married? marriage is the cure for drooling? And fucking? no i don't think it's a cure for that.

hey, aren't you married? marriage is the cure for drooling?

Whew, clears that right up. Wanna climb? only if this it's a date You're on!!! on top? now see there that's how it's done: 2X4 was used and now there's no confusion. when archenemy and i go climbing we're on a date.

Minx has to come too. awww thanks! nothing says fun like a menage a toi i absolutely promise that i will at least be in the vicinity of the little si pub club.

Whew, clears that right up. Wanna climb? only if this it's a date

The prevailing "perceptive gay" stereotype is bunk. i'm sorry your boyfriend doesn't send you flowers when you're feeling blue. maybe if you just tell him you want to cuddle...

The stars are a direct measure of wit and intelligence...this thread has little of either.

guess that would work just as well nahhh...sniffing paint remover just makes you more stupid.

awwww! thanks for the boobies! especially the blue footed boobies. i think boobies look good in blue!

no dilemma...did he throw his coat over the puddle or not? not....then go semi go

oh i'd judge what he does. i guess that i don't place much value on traditional rituals such as door opening therefore those aren't the actions i'd judge. how does he speak to people? does he listen? is he interesting? is he thoughtful? some may argue that door opening is thoughtful but it's mostly mindless. did he offer up a glass of water w/o be asked b/c he noticed i had consumed all of mine since my food was spicey? i think it's more about the specific actions in specific situations that matter to me.

but the question is did you open the door for her before trying to kill her? archenemy-- i agree with you that if everyone had good manners it would solve a lot of problems in the world. however, i think that judging a date by societal "norms" or codifying anything rubs me the wrong way. judge your date for who he is. i guess if you need a traditional style guy, then you better insist he pull out your chair. personal choice.

my point is that it's not about the specific act. if you open doors for people b/c that's the way you do things i just think it's totally lame to judge a guy by a set of guidelines for chivalry that were established eons ago. there's plenty of ways a gentleman can be thoughtful, courteous, and make you feel like the center of the world w/o pulling out your chair. judge the book not the cover. btw--i'd like fries w/my happy meal. thanks