minx

you're mistaken...that photo was taken at Harry's place. that's his harem....er...flock. everyone knows that around the all the sheep belong to DH.

Ah, The Minx has been misinformed as to the residential neighborhood The Fox chooses to call home. The Fox would not like to live in Freemont. Not in a box. Not with socks. I would not live there said The Fox. i had no idea... i was just making wild unsubstantiated, completely unsupported statements as though they were fact.

that's why you live in freemont isn't it?

dru--that's exactly what i mean. we wouldn't want folks to have any sense of identity...especially not black culture. and sheesh, i'd probably a much better wife if i got a good beating from time to time....lord knows i've been hunted for being a witch more than once. maybe things are headed in the right direction.

"...is the teaching of traditional middle-class values, such as morals, manners, and responsibility, and strict rules requiring students to dress neatly, arrive on time, pay attention, be respectful, shun fighting and foul language, and finish their homework. i don't know how folks think these are middle class values. what self respecting suburban child doesn't swear, flock to a fight and dress like a slob. what they're really saying is they're trying to implement a return to 1950s values.

Do those townhomes come standard with middle class values, or is some assembly required? some assembly is required...you only get those when you do your third refinance

yours are afraid

if they were that sort of person would they be looking for a long sport route? probably not but then archie wouldn't have to do it for him.

Kevbone--i'm pretty sure that several people here have climbed it. it has a lot of controversial history as i'm sure you know if you've done a search for the route. i have to agree with the folks here that there is some excellent beta available online. a good guess for who leland is would be the guy that put up the route. makes sense eh? hope you enjoy the climb. i'm sure you can find very detailed info if you keep looking.

And I don't believe he left me here alone with all you nutcases. Sweet Jesus. sheeit...too much of a pansy to handle it? he left you carl as a watch dog. man...what whiner. go put on your banana hammock and hang out with alpinfox. you'll feel better.

THERE'S NO PR0N ALLOWED ON CASCADECLIMBERS.COM! fuck, oly leaves for a week and you go and get all bossy.

i think we should just start the "fucking infinite bliss forum"

the fringe should take the attention away from his skinny rope...but stuffing the hammock might help.

get yourself a fringed banana hammock for your rope. that should help

skinny ropes and fringed thongs are aid

sorry to hear of your troubles...yech!! it seems that everyone is so aware of giardia but it is only responsible for 15-25% of intestinal parasites aquired in the BC. Campy is responsible for a much larger proportion. guess it is a good idea to filter.

CBS- what length of rope were you using? We took 2 60 meters when we were there recently. While we definitely needed both ropes to get down we had plenty of rope left to make the chains on that pitch. Way more than one meter. My partners particularly enjoyed the .10d next to it. It was deemed a fun lead with a good pucker factor. You should give that one a try next time you're there. It was a little to tricky for a wuss like me to enjoy.

it's a real shame...fringe would really ad something to your outfit.

yes wouldn't it be nice if the whole world could be evaluated in simplistic black and white terms. my mother is a flaming republican but i still love her. most of my co-workers are more liberal than i am and i like several of them. i've even got one or two friends that voted for bush....twice. heck when i was younger, i even voted republican a few times. as for religion...i take a harder line and have less tolerance for that than i do for a difference in politics. none the less, i've never refused to share a beer with someone just b/c they went to church.

well i didn't know his banana hammock had fringe! that changes everything

Yes JayB, it's true. Almost every single one of my friends is a liberal, "conservative"-hating, tree-hugging, atheist, anti-government, conspiracy theorist. It's true I'm not open minded or receptive about the christian fundamentalists' religious/political agenda. I oppose it vehemently and consider anyone who espouses it to be my enemy. I do however hold Voltaire's statement, "I may disagree with your opinion but will fight to the death for your right to express it" as a personal credo. Then again, in the words of The Reverend Samuel L. Jackson, "YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE, AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!!!" hmmm...i think i want to be alpinfox's friend. ...as long as he doesn't wear a banana hammock around me.

do you think that i could get through security with a snake in my carry on??

dehydrated liquids that are safe for carry on luggage

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