JGowans

How the do you know it's not all about oil? Do you have some inside track that the rest of us don't? Let me guess, you're his daughter's "pharmacist" right? The two of you stay up late till the wee small hours popping prescription drugs talking about the war and how it's oh so not about oil but rather the vanquishing of evil, right? Am I against liberation? Let me think long and hard about that one. If the U.S. were to invade Canada and "liberate" those poor desperate souls from the oppressive Canadian socialist government, I think I'd be against that. If you were to refer to let's say the allied forces liberating France from German occupation in WWII, then I'd support that. That in my mind constitutes liberation. Uni-lateral invasion of soverign nations however fucked up their governing structure is perceived to be does not connote "liberation" for me. Would pulling out troops completely fuck the people of Iraq? Hmm, talk about self-fulfilling prophecies. Yes, pulling them out now would undoubtedly fuck them up. However, don't you think putting them there in the first place kind of fucked the people of Iraq first of all? That's akin to England saying that if they left N. Ireland, the protestants would be fucked. Of course they would! But if the English hadn't have gone there in the first place, there wouldn't be all the strife there is today. Let's not kid ourselves. The U.S. & Britain created the situation there is today. To suggest that we're in there liberating folks like some fucking band of merry freedom fighters pitting the forces of good against evil is bullshit. There are plots, sub-plots, agendas hidden and not, and hush-hush business deals all consumated by the king-makers picking a puppet to put in place to give a nod and a wink and a swish of a pen auctioning off the wealth of a nation with their culture, and dignity not far behind. Spray on numb nuts.

That's fair enough. I haven't ever said that the U.S. sucked though. I think the current administration sucks and this war sucks but not the country. In any case, if you punched me, I'd be forced to smack you so hard, you'd have to stick a tooth brush up your arse to brush your teeth. I think you'd find that after the initial shock wave, you'd be in for the fight of your life. I don't back down from shit. Cool. I'll remember that...I'd want you in my corner if I ever got in a spot of bother.

That's fair enough. I haven't ever said that the U.S. sucked though. I think the current administration sucks and this war sucks but not the country. In any case, if you punched me, I'd be forced to smack you so hard, you'd have to stick a tooth brush up your arse to brush your teeth.

The fact that I'm living here says it all really. Yes, my country is fucked up but what country isn't? I may as well go to a fucked up country where I can make some decent cash though. Still, I wouldn't go so far as to call Scotland a shit-hole. Well worth seeing. If you weren't such a conservative neanderthal, I'd hook you up with places to stay, girls to cook for you, and sheep to shag

Oh, it's real tough finding ways to discredit America. Just wanna point out that even though I'm a foreign bastard, I'm definitely NOT anti-American. I'm honestly very grateful to have the chance to live here. However, that doesn't negate the fact that I think this war is fucked up food and bush & his cronies are a bunch of retarded and stale wankstains.

that's better! wouldn't want you conservatives bickering among yourselves. you need all the brain power you can muster to launch insults at anti-war pansies like me.

Idiots like you make me puke. If you honestly believe this then you are dumber than I thought. It is, however, a nice catch phrase, and a neat way to blame the US for everything. Just like the chickenshits like France, Germany, etc, etc, etc. call me crazy, but i think this was supposed to be a sarcastic remark aimed at us liberals as opposed to him actually suggesting that CIA was planting these missiles. am i missing the joke here?

Here we go... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_war_wmd_030407175243

Weird. I just read it on Yahoo! and now it seems that they've pulled the story. I can't find it now. I'll keep digging. I was wondering if you were referring to the missles recently found. I noticed CNN currently has the story only as a Breaking News headline with other info, suggesting more tests are ongoing and preliminary tests were positive. No, the yahoo sotry specifically talked about the possible chemical site with the drums of chemicals that they'd discovered. it then explained that it was confirmed to be nothing more than pesticide and then had a few quotes talking about the embarrassing declaration which proved to be nothing at all. I wonder why Yahoo! pulled it?

Weird. I just read it on Yahoo! and now it seems that they've pulled the story. I can't find it now. I'll keep digging.

With a name like Glasgowkiss, he HAS to be Scottish. That's slang for a heid-butt! SEE YOU JIMMY! STITCH THIS YA BASS!

Just want to point out that the "smoking gun" they found was nothing more than pesticide. The allied coalition looks like a horse's arse right now. Until they find WMD, they're going to have a hard time convincing liberal wankers like me that the war was justified.

I was thinking around 7pm on Thursday at Floyds on 1st Ave just up from Key Arena. I'm totally open to other venues though. Do you have any preferences?

We'll be wearing our kilts and carrying our claymores ready to smite the American colonists!

I've been finding out recently that there's quite a few of us Scottish / U.K. ex-pats that post on this board: bubblebutt, Glasgowkiss and a few others I think. Anyway, how about we try to get together for a few pints this week? What about Thursday night? I'd be open to location suggestions. I'll throw out Floyds on Queen Anne as a possible venue. cheers, jason

Hey, I want to just mention that I got the stuff I was after, and I did indeed go to Second Ascent. Greg's a good guy, and he gave me a good deal. I'm a cheap bastard sometimes and shouldn't moan about his prices. He called me on it, and he has a point. My bad Greg. Now, if there was only a shop called "Umpteenth Ascent" that sold all the shit that folks ditch after they bought it from Second Ascent and I could get all my gear for next to nothing...

Hey Fence_Sitter, Are you still going to Elbrus? I'll be there from August 4th - 11th.

You must be really boring. i think we all agree on that one.

thanks for the words of encouragement you guys. it felt good. still so much to learn but it's good to be out there doing it and getting better each time. cheers! /jg

How long shall we keep this going? I can probably summon up the energy to write some barb about numerous power figures with 5-year old minds dominating Washington that would suggest a reason for the Post's shitty wit and oh so trite humor but what would be the point? I think that once done there, I may just be able to quickly munch some gu and force myself to continue by writing about how I think you whining about SUVs driven by men with small peckers leads me to believe that you haven't had some in a while or you have but just aren't satisfied. However, I won't do any of the above. I think I'm bored of you now. Thank you. Drive thru.

Dude, I was joking. I thought I made it pretty clear. I guess not

Stare on! The majority of the blokes on this site are a bunch of leacherous old farts that undoubtedly cast many a beady eye during the course of the day. The fact that I'm a prime-of-my-life hardman means that I can say it and it's funny as opposed to just sadly true true. (that's my illogical reasoning anyway and I'll stick to it for the time being).

That weather man is Michael Fish.

I don't care. It just adds more color to the stories when you use use adjectives.

A big shout out to The Wimpey (a lame Euro version of McDonalds) where I got a job in the evenings during high school and subsequently shagged the assistant manager. Thanks Wimpey!