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Fearless leader is good, as well as the Death Fall area. However, I really enjoy No Pryer Experience. Very clean face. Continuous difficulty.....all the way to the chains.

Sure Pindude, I could elaborate on the ways that spokane is lacking. First, I am frequently spotted in the kan at two particular locations. The first being a local gear shop and the second being the crags. The climbing is good. Also, a positive note about spokane is that the citizens are concerned about there health. For example, on a given day I can find about a half dozen condoms and a couple needles at Minne. This is good because it shows that the safe sex message has really sunk in and the IV drug users are not reusing their needles. Spokane as a city tends to have a negative vibe. This starts with the leadership of the city. Council members who can't get along and like to sue each other. Mayors that can't get re elected. A city that can't take care of its infrastructure. I choose to live in Cd'a because the air is clean, even during an inversion. The city leadership has a common goal and the city is well taken care of. There is a lot of good climbing here, in town and close to town. Also, there is not a mountaineering club that is named after Cd'A. Although, you would think there was because they are always over here in the local pubs of Cd'A and at the local crags, bitching about idahoans as they use all of our recreational resources. Spokane is good for a lot of things. The only time there is culture in Cd'A is during the summer when both playhouses are in full swing and there is free live music every week, weekend art or craft festivals, you know the usual lame shit. Good things about spokane- Lots of climbing and skiing, not world class but VERY good. Cheap place to live. Not many people gettin' out there, but just enough. Local Mounties org is a good one with only a couple exceptions. Their names I know by heart. Not you Pindude. Close to Cd'A. All things considered, if you are a professional or skilled you will be able to find a job in the Kan that pays a decent wage. That wage will be enough to live on in the area. I would choose to live in the Kan as opposed to the west side any day.

The climbing sucks and there isn't much of it. You don't want to climb over here. Seriously though, Spokanites can sometimes be very negative about there city because it is lacking in many ways. However, there is a lot of climbing and skiing and not so many people doing it. Folks like to complain about the Kan but they just keep coming back after brief stints to the west side.

How's the Mountaineers creek road doing these days? Have we shortened our round trip to colchuck to an easy day yet?

Definately the Z2. As for which sole, both options are vibram. The lugged one is the Terrano and the smoother one is the Colorado. I think the Colorado is better for friction on approaches and it is slightly lighter.

I am peaking right now because: 1. I don't want to be on a strict weight regimine throughout the summer. 2. I'm not trying to match my peak to any sort of Redpointing goal. 3. I'm not totally done with the WFH yet.

Started the Workout From Hell in November and I am just coming down off it. I modified it a bit. 20-25 Reps in the first stage instead of the recommended 30 and 3 different exercises per muscle group instead of the recommended 4. It did the trick. I lost a bit of fat and became considerably stronger. I have really noticed it in both my Ice and Rock performance. I am recommending it to all of you if you have the time.

I have a set of these that have never been used. They are not in the package. PM me an offer.

How far is it open? Must you still ski the whole thing or can some of it be bicycled or driven. Thanks for the update.

Polar Circus may be a "trade route" but, when we did it there was no one else around and there was surprisingly little walking considering how much ice there is to climb. Mammut Rep had no problem climbing it leashless although I was quite happy to have mine at the end considering I was a bit tired. I consider PC a must do if you're in the area and the conditions are right.

Jacket is gone but, the vest is still around. It is very soft and cuddly and would love to be traded for some pitons.

Climb: Banks-Salt and Pepper Date of Climb: 2/5/2004 Trip Report: It's huge and fun.....and still up.

Still need a partner for one or both days. Somebody wants to climb i'd imagine.

I have a Mammut Cerro Torre Softshell jacket Red Sz Lg and a Mountain Hardwear Chill Factor vest Blue Lg. Both of which are in excellent condiition. The vest is about 5 Y/o and the Jacket is 1 Y/o. The jacket is Schoeller WB 400 with Powerstretch side panels and the vest of course is 200 Bipolar with shoulder reinforcements. I would like $30 for the vest and $80 for the jacket. Any reasonable offer will be considered and I may be interested in a trade for a Rock hammer and pins. Beer is good for trades too.

I live on the East side and I am interested in any ice within a 5ish hour drive from Spokane. L'worth would be fine. Gibralter. The Nada falls TR sounded interesting. What is the grade for that route? If you have any ideas and are interested please post.

Tech wings are the best of show. IF you actually find them on sale i would buy them. I have climbed with quarks, cobras, machines, most any major brand tool. Tech's are by far my favorite. They will work for alpine just fine too.

Need school money eh? Too bad, I would love to have them but I would be more interested in a trade. I have several softshells that are in like new condition that I could use for trading fodder. Let me know if you are interested by email. plugugly76AThotmail.com

I'll hold onto them for you until ice conditions are good. I'd probably wan't to climb in L'worth. Oh yeah, PBR, Bottles preferred. If not, then Pyramid IPA.

Y'know, it's a nice looking book and it sure is nice to see a guide to washington area ice. However, it is very thick. I can't imagine that there are more climbs in it than in Waterfall Ice Ed 3. There are lots of pages. A suggestion to those who may consider books in the future. If you have ever seen many of the Euro alpine guidebooks they are very small, have lots of info, and have a durable cover and binding. Why are guidebooks in this area so cumbersome? Does anyone have any ideas?

Where do you live? I could meet you somewhere for some climbing and you could trade me a half rack of beer for the three for four Old style DMM screws that I have.

Copper has been in and out of condition many times this year. I have done it already three times from early november to just last week.

How long does it take to approach to do the routes on the NF and NEB. Would you recommend snowshoes or skis? When will they likely be in shape?

Are any of the routes shaping up in the icicle creek area? How about Abiel, Chair, or the Tooth? I am going to be in the area Sun, Mon, Tues. Looking for alpine or Ice, prefer Ice.

What is the best way to access the Cathedral peak area and approximately how long does it take to get in there?

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