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I can't wait till you start "exposing my tactics"

I was addressing you, not JayB. Why do you have to hide behind him all the time? I'll deal with JayB when he finally shows up.

right, you claim that pesticide use isn't an issue, which is supposed to make of you a moderate ...

I said discourse, not disparaging (and earned) words edited out of context. I am amused at seeing "interlocutor" in the mix. Moron (add this one to the list).

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"trace amounts" is basically a lie because many populations today receive more than trace amounts of pesticides and other toxic chemical byproducts of human activity for which there is considerable evidence of toxicity to us (and our environment). Also note that what constitutes "trace amounts" has been revised for as long as we know.

right, another stupid joke will convince your target audience for sure! It's in the bag.

Your discourse says more about you than it says about me.

j_bot is finally showing us his true feelings about the death of the glorious leader of the People's Republic of NK... and it only took how many posts for us to see what we already knew? Red-baiting again. You clearly have limited talents.

In j_bot's Marxist vision capitalism is 'freedumb'. 'Nuf said. You are so lame. It's definitely not worth the effort.

...and that's just his last six posts

Thanks for making my point that you are attached to the cold war/johnbircher vision of a world divided between commies and freedumbers.

dude, give it a rest with the emoticons. It looks retarded.

See, you claim to be offended when I point out that you align with the far right fringe yet red-baiting of your opponents flows out of your mouth as if it were second nature. What a surprise (not).

I was doing you a favor by saying you're a liar considering the unpleasant alternative (blithering stupidity).

Anytime, but I won't hold my breath considering your dismal record in these parts.

It has to do with this thread since you claimed that I usually make up my interlocutors' positions, which is certainly not true. I have only said about you what your positions have been. Never did you rebut my comments at the moments I made them, which is certainly very convenient for you to now claim out of context that it is untrue.

Conflate is a good word but KKK either doesn't know what it means or he decided to ignore its meaning for the purpose of trolling. Conflating issues/ideas isn't necessarily a bad thing when there is ground for doing so. Disingenuously doing so is however not something that one wants to do if one is interested in presenting an honest and logical argument. Slagging on vaccination refuseniks has virtue but pretending that it allows the punching of people weary of pesticides in their food is disingenuous. I also see that KKK is still trying to run away from his record of warmongering and of backing any and most regressive talking points that come up in these discussions.

more vague accusations but when it is time for KKK to specifically refute something I say, he is nowhere to be seen (besides to engage in the usual mud flinging of course).

How would you describe the politics of the non-vaccinating folks in Vashon and Ashland, kemosabe? I have no idea but you ought to know plenty about it considering that you brought up this particular topic a half dozen times (yet you never bring up for example how corporate "food" is ruining people's health, which surely is a much more significant issue/crisis than a few people refusing vaccination). So lets see how you know who these people are as group and whether their political orientation rather than say religion is relevant to this issue. But, none of this addresses your disingenuously conflating the refusal of vaccination with avoiding pesticides and other things mentioned previously.

prove it

I do argue a lot with regressives but it's not my fault that lying happens to be an integral part of the-end-justifies-the-means philosophy espoused by many of these psychopaths.

Of course, it had to end up with an attack on progressives. As if there wasn't plenty of evidence that some pesticides, bisphenol-A, GMO's, etc .. are hazardous to our health and/or that of the environment. The technique is straight out of a neoliberal "think-tank" ...

Got it. Zelaya wanting to organize a referendum on the constitution amounts to saying "there's no need for additional elections". Honestly, the rank stupidity of your commentary questions the wisdom of answering such drivel.

People I have called liars appeared to be lying at the time. Like, for example, FW claiming that I support Chavez, when in fact, years ago, it's true that I refuted FW's warmongerng accusations against Chavez and pointed out the things he was doing right (like agrarian reform), yet warned about creeping Bonapartism (matters appear to have evolve in that direction, unfortunately). We repeatedly have had this exchange over the years with FW so he can't claim to be unaware of the above, which leads me to say that he is lying. Or for example, when FW repeatedly claims (as recently as 2 weeks ago) that some climate skeptic's internet ramblings are peer-reviewed despite being repeatedly shown they aren't peer-reviewed amounts to lying. It's not like it should be extremely shocking that people who repeatedly show no intellectual honesty resort to lying to confuse their readers.