RuMR

pink on vacation?

Not to be a dick, but climbing ability should have nothing to do with this discussion...

why do you always f-ing say that??? WTF, he didn't say he climbed it...shut the fuck up already... oh...and here you go, ya stupid wank... 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12 5.14 c/d 5.15 b V16 grade VI WI7+ M12

didya work off some of that enormous gut????

they trade back and forth... say, is that where that term horsetrading comes from?

You don't have to tell us what you like to fuck. We know. pink is so not a dead horse...sheesh...dumb canuckafuck...

neither do i, bill...i was playing devil's advocate with you...

Not true bill, a bolted line removes the adventure aspect...definitely a large "trace" in some people's eyes...

Bullshit. What Bachar demonstrated was what an incredibly bold and driven person can do in face of perilous risk. Bachar was an anomaly, I doubt we'll see another like him. Most people aren't even close to his league and never will be. You brought him up because you've done some bold climbing and soloing of your own and your point is "climbing should only be for the boldest and bravest among us....like me". Pure ego driven religious proselytization at it's best. I'd argue that alex honnold and some of the boulderers out there are in bachar's category...but then again, i don't climb anymore so maybe i'm outta touch... michael reardon was in bachar's category as well... been a tough year for climbing... What about Peter Croft? no slight on Peter Croft at all...he's from Bachar's day though...i was talking about the next set...

Bullshit. What Bachar demonstrated was what an incredibly bold and driven person can do in face of perilous risk. Bachar was an anomaly, I doubt we'll see another like him. Most people aren't even close to his league and never will be. You brought him up because you've done some bold climbing and soloing of your own and your point is "climbing should only be for the boldest and bravest among us....like me". Pure ego driven religious proselytization at it's best. I'd argue that alex honnold and some of the boulderers out there are in bachar's category...but then again, i don't climb anymore so maybe i'm outta touch... michael reardon was in bachar's category as well... been a tough year for climbing...

whatever fenceshitter...

ahhh just bolt it already....

i don't think i'd ever say that c3's are "generally preferred" over metolius TCU's!!!!

woah! Who let me post here?????? Must be an epic winter coming...

stoked

Thanks E...

Bill...i oftentimes find that a simple "fuck off" would fulfill prole's request... just sayin'...

nah uhh....gotta disagree on that... pretty damn near universal acceptance of the fact that kevturd is a bonehead...

This is a radically different position than I have thought you earlier exposed. I had thought you had earlier postulated a NO BOLT philosophy. My apologies, I obviously misread something. May I also add: those who attack your profession do so because they are not able to intellectually formulate a valid argument against your bolt position so they attack you personally instead: in lieu of an actual discussion on the subject. This only shows that they either have weak ideas or weak minds. I will admit to you that I found Ivans point interesting and humorous, i.e. that you spend your life/vocation unearthing, preserving, cataloging (and glorifying?) some of the largest scale destruction and manipulation of rock by humans ever seen on this earth. Big respect for what you do for a living from me. I'm not attacking you at all over it, but you have to admit that the comparison of your attacks on bolting, which as you can see from my earlier pictures of the Apron bolt replacement project, the bolts cannot be seen except from close up and often you can't even see the next one from the one you just clipped: vs some of the Egyptian "royal works" projects visible from the next planetary object over -is a stark and interesting contrast? Have you ever considered or reflected on this contrasting thought Don? Regards to all: For myself, there are places where bolted lines are not appropriate at all. And many of those areas have taken steps to control it. However, places like El potrero chico have no cracks and great cliffs and great climbing. For myself, I'm glad there are routes there and places like that. I find it interesting that uber clean/ethical guys like Kurt Smith, who showed up at Smith in the 80s and did a ground up FA of a 5.12 to slap the locals in the face over their thoughts on rap bolting, recognized this and later did many rap bolted lines at El Potrero. You can't even see the bolts unless you take a close up shot. I don't understand the horror over having routes here myself. not to belabor a point, when kurt showed up and he didn't exactly slap the locals in the face, and his ground up ascent of a "5.12" was really two mid range, chossy 5.11's called suicidal tendoncies and touch...he pretty much got beat up... secondly, i wouldn't exactly call Rifle a trad climber's paradise and he was one of the principle developers there...

in the era of the giants when you bestrode the earth with your seven league boots and forearms like popeye. them were the days, i tell ye. climbers today got no balls and is weak as kittens. bolts sap a man's strength, make him into a womanish creature and a pitiable sight. the whole world should just give up climbing and line up to watch the mighty JosephH and the indomitable Raindawg talk us to death with their endless gobbledy-gook and senile confabulations... i just sprayed coffee out of both nostrils!!

i actually was thinkin Superbitch...

so...

now...can't we all agree that bashing kevvy and pinkie is a worthy pursuit and drop this now?

Bob...they are no more of a nuisance than some loud mouth buffoon either... Last time i checked i wasn't buying a ticket to the crag... Arguably bob, you have pissed off many people with some of your antics...should you be asked to leave the crag? that's right, you woulda said "Fuck off"...