RuMR

WAY TO BUCK THE TREND!

aid climbing is ghey...i don't ever use it in reference to making a point... hmmm...well, a munter hitch sits pretty high on the lock off kN category...would you use it????? face it...the belayer's hips move just 1 INCH, there are now dynamics in the equation...might as well use the gri gri... plus, its hella more convenient...especially if the dude is going BIGGGG!

HA!...you got that one right I just like to watch the shotgun blast of misspelled words coming my way!!!

after checking out kat goin' down on a popsicle, i can never view her as "innocent"...

...you look really innocent, there, homie...

actually, with catturdeat... first I'd say "Don't worry about what knot to tie as you're gonna go splat"...then i'd say "can i watch this?"

the fact that if i know someone is not up to the task because they are a beginner that i'd just say "ah well, fuck it, you're on your own" and then hold the rope...

"Are you scared?" "NO...I'm completely KNACKERED! BOLLOCKS!" gotta love the brits...

it's hard to be in a situation like that. learning to lead is scary (i am a totaly chicken) the bottom line in your situation is this person told you that she felt she was experienced enough to take on this challenge. it is not your responablity as a climbing partner to judge weather she really does know what she says she knows. all you can do is trust that your climbing partner has done proper research on the route and has appropriate experience to lead the route. if you were a guide you would have to take responsablity. as climbers we all have to shoulder our own responsablity for our own ablity and our own understanding of climbing systems and how they work. uhh...i gotta call bullshit on this... bad move for the muffster

neil bently and another brit trying the salathe/free rider... good flick... but i'm curious what everyone thinks of their unique protection of offwidths

...Blood, Sweat, and Bagels?

That's AID climbing, Rudy. In aid climbing, an inattentive belayer is a bigger risk than ripping all your gear out. Just because a GriGri makes sense in that context doesn't mean it's the best choice for free climbing in general. dude...you are a tool...in one breath you say "I absolutely want my belayer to lock off"...in another, you say "no gri gri"... same thing... AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT FREE CLIMBING ON ELCAP... so...I wouldn't hesitate to have someone belay me with a gri gri...

so...i see you are perma-stoned...

gene-police... i like that!!

idiots that say a gri gri can't be used for "trad" climbing, whatever that is, are just that...idiots... go check out el cap and see what the belay device of choice is... gri gri's are fine...as are atc's, munter hitches, figure 8's, etc. just make sure you know how to use whatever you're using...

only when its 2" for 1 " specials day

pitching a stiffie could be construed as a veiled sales pitch, no??

QUOTE: I was at a local crag recently and had set up a TR for a couple of new climber friends of mine. Another group of noobs came along looking for the climb we were on. I told them we'd be done with it a few minutes. We finished climbing. I went up, broke down the anchor, rapped down and pulled the rope. As I packed my rope, one of the noobs asked, "Are you taking that rope with you?" "Yes," I replied. "Well the book says that this is a TR. Can you leave it?" "No. It's mine." I said. "Can you tell us where the climbs with ropes are?" Sigh. END QUOTE oh that's funny stuff!

does pitchin' a stiffie count when a hottie walks by???

with rope stretch it is especially with your fat ass hanging on the end...errrr, my fat ass, i mean...

BAWAHAHAHA

a bubbly blonde

or in carl's case 2.5 inchies...

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