iain

I think that's supposed to be 26.93. I just tried to order one, technical error.

There is a difference between the typical christian American and Pat Robertson. I consider the latter borderline Talibanesque. There is also a difference between "prominent politicians" and the chief law-enforcement officer of the country. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who believes in some organized religion to be in Ashcroft's position, but I don't think someone who has such strong ties to such extreme groups belongs in that position. What sounds a bit far-fetched is extrapolating from the above statements to say "this proves the religious intolerance of the liberal camp".

Fairweather, my point had nothing to do with political "sides" though you seem to try to make this an issue every time, usually flavored with some superlative about "blinders" or "tunnel vision". I was simply saying it is remarkable someone like Thurmond was still making policy considering his storied past. Secondly, every person besides Byrd you mentioned is not actively participating in the law-making process. Byrd could be considered in the same context as Thurmond, though at least Byrd is willing to be a rather progressive presidential watchdog over our international affairs lately. Mtngoat I think Robbob gave you my answer for me. Ashcroft's strong ties to the 700 club and christian coalition are reason enough for concern. It would take a powerful individual indeed to defend abortion doctors by the laws in our books when one's religion considers the act bloody murder and a sin.

Some snow classics that have eluded me for one reason or another: North Face, Mount Hood Eliot Headwall, Mount Hood Newton Clark Headwall, Mount Hood Early Morning Couloir, North Sister Liberty Ridge, Mount Rainier why on earth haven't I got these yet? this next year for sure! Canada: Mount Sir Donald Mount Sir Sandford Mount Robson (any route) Tsar the list goes on...

I'm not going to waste time with your academics on what you define as religion. While in Missouri Ashcroft did not seek out and prosecute the attackers of abortion clinic doctors who by every definition of the word were terrorists. It seemed clear that he let his religious obligations stand in the way of his ability to perform justice, his job he swore to fulfill. That's enough for me, whether I am pro-choice or not is irrelevant. Whether I have a faith-based existence is irrelevant. He claims to be a champion of justice, which is supposed to be blind in this country. I believe he did not do his job because his religious obligations prevented it.

My mom is from England so I spent a good amount of my youth over there eating chocolate from well-meaning relatives. Chocolate is approximately 100000 times better over there. I was raised on chocolate digestives, jaffa cakes, jelly babies, licorice allsorts, you name it.

Maybe just stick to the originals. For instance, the ever popular "pirate" P-) or the "buck-toothed vampire" :-E or the ubiquitous "dead fish" <*}}}>

ah the old "let's play the silent game". I knew that one well, but failed miserably at it. no matchbox car for iain again.

for me, grandmothers always meant free chocolate and lots of it. and insane british accents.

they would have to graduate from "ball" first. or maybe the invisible "Mr. Wizard"

I think chuck's dancing robot was pretty close to the mark as well.

actually when I have kids I'll just give them a hulahoop and call it good until they're 12 or so. Then maybe give them a gyroscope or something.

done and done! 'course transformers probably require a degree in astrophysics these days.

what's the ubb code for that, :beefchub:?

I take it has the "swivel arm battle grip" like the 1980's vintage GiJoe's?

clearly you are not the forumgoddess lawgoddess. Nice work on the lion's jaw this weekend. didn't know you climbed trad.

falling becomes a little easier on the steeper 5.10's too. Falling on those smith 5.9 nubbins would give you a good knee cheesegrate.

If this is a troll I'll call Fishing the West to get you on after the bassmasters segment. PS If this is your real personality in person I pity you.

Trask, of course we don't need to start from scratch each time. My point was that we can't look back on witch trials, nazis, etc without realizing that we are still the same people capable of exactly the same thing. Every time there is paranoia and fear, someone is waiting in the wings to step up and take the helm and capitalize on it, uniting us through anxiety to seek out these "enemies". Rights become violated, laws are thrown out the window, until we once again realize that we are still quite the same as those who stumbled down this dangerous road before us. That in itself sounds paranoid, but there is a powerful historical record to back this up, in my opinion.

I simply don't trust John Ashcroft at all. His constant superlative speeches about terror and justice get on my nerves. I don't trust someone with that much power who views everything in the world within such a religious context. That position requires objectivity, and from what I have seen, he picks and chooses his "enemies of justice".

That sucks Muffy. Kid runs out of AAA batteries and he can't do basic math anymore. But really, who has the time to teach kids long division anymore? Then again, when was the last time you did long division? The trouble with technology is I expected to do 10x as much in 0.5x the time.