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plab is short for plabacious. were you born in a cave?

if it's a video erik was watching that ain't no tongue

I think it's now clear where the issues of traffic congestion lie in America's cities! I'm just giving you a hard time. BTW, I own a tacoma. not a monster, but no hybrid either. I do not commute with it however, but do drive it to the mountains since I need somewhere to sleep up there.

spare me that crap goat! we all know what was happening there. the point is, we are forcing our ways and values on other cultures, and that was the only parallel I was making. as for you Gowens, I hope that full-time 4wd is proving its worth on the freeways of WA this summer btw it's not like I can't afford an suv. and even if you couldn't technically afford an suv you could still get one. this is america! you can get whatever car you want with the financing out there.

that's some scary stuff. I've only felt it on flat ground before, fortunately.

he scares the hell out of me, and I bet at least 10 other countries right now. if a country like iraq can be whitewashed for the obscure reasons that it was, what's really to stop us from invading anyone else on these terms? this whole "preemptive" rationale opens the doors wide open. And realistically, how much effort are we going to put into iraq once the military operations end? I doubt much based on the progress in afganistan.

but when it comes to foreign policy, i.e. the "liberation of iraq's people", this apparently does not apply.

hey it's cc.com no thread is safe. did you see my innocent post about trying out telemarking?

It still is a sad state of affairs when people choose cars to make "statements" rather than practicality. cars are beasts of burden to get my lazy ass and the crap I own from point a to b, and that's all.

seat warmers are awesome if your kids play winter league club soccer! I used to run for the car after those brutal cold wet games in outer portland/gresham suburbia hell for the ride back down to corvallis.

they do it because they hate you.

what's with Toyota these days? it seems like they have 3 different suv models all competing w/ each other. Robbob I agree with the rainy day evening thing, shaved $4000 off the used toyota truck I got. Also helps if the toyota is sitting on a kia dealer's lot, who isn't as familar with the model.

nice haggling robbob. damn car dealers. why is it you only haggle for cars but nothing else in this culture.

It's not like you have to take the extreme on everything to make a point. If you used a car to get to the mountains once in awhile but did not use the car for day-to-day stuff like commuting, I think you stand on some moral ground to make the claim. I bet if everyone who could ride a bike to work everyday did, we would go a long way towards reducing our mideast dependence.

well heck s. side of hood? it's like shooting fish in a barrel. no other mountain do you get culture shock when you hit the summit by climbing a different route

maybe it was dan - training. might explain the camcorder for evidence?

why thank you fern

the chemical weapons are all in Syria now. Time to move on to our next target! Iran's next after that. Gotta keep those Rockwell and Raytheon contracts smokin!

sad story

yes the 1" webbing sausage, usually in bundles is diagnostic of whack, I am in error.

whack m.c.s are well-known for not carrying enough webbing on climbs

nols patch is the holy grail of whack, extra points for shiny carabiner nearby w/ nalgene hanging off

yes and again the boots were free from a generous individual so I'm going to try it out w/ those. wow some strong opinions about this. it would mainly be used for cruising around mount hood more than anything.

rotton.com comes through again I see. That site will make you puke if you click on the wrong links.