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funny, that's usually what I say to strangers on the trail. (if they are not total beefcakes w/stained def leppard wifebeater and leather bandanna on head)

boonecounty back in the house! Sounds like you might be a little bottom-heavy from too many trips up the south side.

It's hard to tell what is considered "difficult and dangerous" by people who do not regularly climb. I think Backpacker magazine at one point said the Timberline Trail was difficult and dangerous, and I think you'd agree that it is serious by yourself with no gear, but it is hardly dangerous. For Adams I would definitely want someone who had done it before with me, or at least do a preliminary hike around to know what you are getting into before setting off with a waterbottle and some clif bars As for the 6hr+ Timberline run, I think they had some assistance with water. I don't even remember where I got that time from.

Renton is less crowded than I envisioned.

Sat: Two runs up Mt. Washington - best granite splitters in the range. Sun: Smith - the place was empty.

Yes, if it is, or has been raining hard, don't even think about the Timberline Trail. Not only are some of the creeks dangerous to cross, the "old" trail that bypasses Ramona gets landslides and general sketchiness. You should have seen the flow rate coming down the Sandy the day the woman died. Even a day later we had trouble crossing it, and she was well out of the flow when she was found that day. It would be terrible to cross White River in the dark. Just don't let it happen. I still vote for clockwise. The burn coming out of Cloud Cap up Cooper Spur after a full marathon is unbeatable!

I have run this a few times now. I prefer running it clockwise because of the hill from Sandy to T-line, and I like puking on Mt Hood Meadows permit area. How are the creek crossings right now? Current time to beat is 6hrs and change. Go get 'er.

Joseph, thanks for all the work you have done. I enjoyed the new anchors today. I think I heard you hammering over up there. I find it interesting you decided on webbing and rap rings rather than steel chains. Sadly I think those steel rap rings are going to disappear quickly. At least those beautiful rap bolts you have installed will stay put.

Wow, that's a lot different story than what I had pictured.

I think a lot of the stories involving aluminum crampons come from the lightweight boots people pair with them. Yes, they do dull easily and they don't seem like the best choice when seeking out steep snow and ice. They do work much better with a boot suited for the ice.

you could also stack it in your pack if you don't want a bunch of rope getting in the way of things

That is one of many issues that add up to a bad deal for the public. Once fees come into play a service is expected to be provided. Currently rescue is a "best efforts" attempt in most of the Cascades, and in my opinion, is in the spirit of citizens helping each other when they need it. There is a core of very highly-qualified people filling this role for free, and for a few, a very minimal salary. Obviously some are less qualified than others, but there are many who could be paid for their skill and fitness level. Yet they choose to do this for free because it gives them something that can't be obtained with money.

Sadly it is not different. That bill was a knee-jerk reaction where the Oregon legislature felt the had to do "something". If you do not carry a cellphone or MLU (on Mt. Hood only), you could conceivably be considered liable for charges. In practice, this is highly unlikely, though it is there in the law. Portland Mountain Rescue and the MRA put out a statement after similar cries for billing climbers arose when a helicopter crashed on Mt. Hood a few years ago. Here was their public statement: http://www.pmru.org/common/opsstatement.html

yer mom

she? she? That's a man, baby.

did the guy who killed Trotsky get caught or did he turn himself in (self arrest)

you know you love it

actually they are. stress is force per unit area, usually measured in pascals 1 Pa = 1x10^-5 kgm^-1s^-2

there was a lengthy thread about climbing as a parent about three years ago if you want to dig that up.

in structural geology: stress = force applied to a material strain = magnitude of displacement of material

Yeah I wasn't sure if I should have admitted I was speeding, but I did apologize, and when he gave me the option to make up some story about it being an emergency, I admitted that I could not say it was. So much for that strategy. It does seem like you can be well over the speed limit on the freeway before the state patrol will pull you over, but this was the local county. I guess in the end I was speeding and should just suck it up, but hwy 97 could do with 65mph through there.

Thanks NOLSe I assumed as much about the detector, plus some are about the price of a ticket. I'd assume the police keep a pretty good eye on what your hands are doing as you are pulled over. I would bet flashing some volunteer cards could also work the other way if you were too obvious about it. Sucks to just give away money. I wonder how thw radar system works when there are cars in front of the police car with the radar. I would think the radar would also pick up the cars in front of it (there were several) when it tried to calculate the cop car's speed if it reflects off the road in front of it. This would produce an erroneous (higher) reading on my speed. I assume these things work based on Doppler, and are not pin-point accurate. Grasping at straws here, but all I want is reasonable doubt. I didn't think it would get me anywhere to quiz the cop on these points so I was just polite and took it. It would probably just make me look like a jackass and he'd increase the bill.

shit you're right I guess I'll consider myself lucky.

I have been witness to a lady eating a bowl of cereal while driving down Broadway in Portland.

Thanks for the info. Probably not worth my time to head out to Madras, so I will just pay it. I would guess a rural county like that would have the time to bring in the officer and whomever else they need. I would also bet I don't have much of a home court advantage at a rural court when I have a Portland address. May be time for a radar detector (or maybe I should just slow down). It just stings when I felt I was not creating a dangerous situation with no one around me on a straight road.