sk

what the Heck is going on???? I demand my money back

My inbox is broken and I can't converse

yep

damn messy too, isn't it come on trask, I was speaking in a familure way, but my point remains the same... I don't think your rich ass self wants the government pissing away money any more than I do

I WANT A DOGGIE!!!! (SOB) you all are so lucky Boxers are my fave. and I often stop people walking them so I can pet. Ice girl your pup is an angel, verry similare to the face that woke me up every morning from 3 to 16.

quote: Originally posted by Steamer: It has been a while so I thought I would check the site out and nothing has changed. Same stupid people talking about the same stupid shit. well if it ain't my old buddy steamy how you doin' sugar? Now don't be bein' a dick wad arround here or you know I will cut loose on you and you know how I like that your favorite foul mouthed bitch, sk [ 11-17-2002, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

all men need porn

It has to be on the net somewhere I think...

I see NO REASON why the government should pay for child care at ALL! i know, how unprogressive of me but seriously if you are going to have children you have to make the sacrifices that it takes to care for them. Child care is a sham. Hire a friend, or depend on a grandparent and if you can't do that RAISE YOUR OWN CHILDREN. seriously, I tried to let go of this, and I just could not... it felt so horribly wrong to try to send my children to daycare all day so I chose to quit working. It was fine when the were with Tex or Jason, but I could not see paying 300.00$ a week to hardly see them. I don't understand how people can do that and call it child rearing. If you don't want to spend your TIME with children please do not have them. People wonder why "kids today" misbehaive and are so uncontrolable etc. it is my oppinion that institutionalized child care is a major factor. I found that when (for a month) I didn't see my kids all day I was more likely to give into them and not punish them or call them to task over their behavior. Because I missed them so much and I just wanted to be with them. I see this all arround me with kids at school. I am not saying there are not exceptions, because I am sure there are. But then I am not a verry good feminist

quote: Originally posted by Dave Schuldt: If there is money in junk than that's what REI should sell. This will leave more room for the real climbing stores like Pro Mountain Sports, Outdoor and More, Second Acent............ I agree! and i whish backcountry gear would expand their invintory and store and give REI a run for their money. Living in a smaller town we have fewer choices. 3 stores maybe 4 (including REI and GI Joes) for outdoor stuff. the selection is LIMITED and somewhat limiting. I HATE SHOPPING ON LINE, because I like to touch things before I pay for them

I don't realy mind paying taxes. What I mind is paying more of my (our) income than I can afford to taxes, and then that money being spent by the government in unwise ways. I think the government should have to shop the sale racks and clip cupons just like I do. I take the time to spend my money as wisely as possible it would please me if the government paid my hard earned cash that kind of respect as well. Taxes are not a never ending supply of funds. How much people have to pay in taxes effect their quality of life.

I tend twords libitarianism at heart.... I just disagree with you on principle because you are boring and pompas

at least someone is out there climbing and having fun lucky devil Don't come back soon but do be safe and enjoy every single moment

I told ya timm@y snow is stuck on the other side of santiam pass where the freshies were flyin' last weekend

awsome weather site thanks

NAUGHTY TRASK

you can't get rid of me that easy besides I wouldn't take that goat anywhere

this is me "waiting you out"

despite the fact that you are completely impossible I think we may have reached an understanding. You are correct that I can judge no ones needs but my own. It is my oppinion that *most* environmentalists are not trying to tell people what they *need* so much as asking people to make the best choice possible for any given situation. Just because you have the right to drive your gas guzzeling 4x4 the mile down the driveway to check the mail doesn't mean that you *should*. choose responsably.

quote: Originally posted by fern: it's not a goatee it's a SOUL PATCH what's that?

point: when you travel a short distance you have many choices as there are MANY different kinds of cars. trucks etc. you can also use a motor cycle or ride a bike or god forbid walk! when you travel far away, say Hawaii your choices become more limited. there are ONLY two ways to get there. boat or plane ( well okay you could swim ). Personaly I think it would be great if more ways could be invented, but until that time, don't you think it is wise to make the best choice for each circumstance? and conserve the resorces for where we have limited OPTIONS??? so for example, if more people drove less or drove more fule efficiant vehicals, less harm would be done to the environment, even though those people choose to fly at times. your way seems to be all or none. [ 11-15-2002, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

quote: Originally posted by MtnGoat: "But, in the meanwhile, any distance traveled involves some compromises, and since jet-travel is the only way to realistically go on any lengthy journey, I'd consider it a necessary evil, whereas an SUV is hardly necessary, usually existing only as a vanity piece." but if you do not "need" to travel in the first place, the usage of the jet is merely using resources you don't need to use. Traveling by air for pleasure is the same as driving an SUV for pleasure, a discretionary waste of fossil fuels. Why is OK for someone to waste kerosene just because they want to go somewhere, and then rag on someone else who wants to waste gas just to go somewhere closer? It's the arbitrary use of the fuel that is the issue, regardless of how far is traveled IMO. you can not argue perception and perspective as fact. To me, I NEED to go to the mountains, (my counslor agrees ) you however may not need that there is no "right" there is not "ONE WAY"

when I met dru he was verry clean shaven he does seem to like silly hats though

that is an old tierd argument that gets no one anywhere extremisum on any side does more harm than good. I think the point is to do a little. And if everyone did a little, alot would end up getting done as far as preservation goes. but then we are back again at the FACT that some people are stupid and pig headed and can not be taught better ways. Is it realy so hard to recycle? to pack out your trash? to NOT LITTER? to realize that riding a motorized vehical in a designated nature presurve is probably not a great idea? we are at the crux of our diffeence of oppinion, and my general philosophy of life. "personal rights only extend so far, as they do not interfer with someone elses personal rights" but then it pisses me off when people tell me I can't smoke or ask me to put out my cigatrete because it is bothering them. This universe is NOT black and white. Part of the joy of being human is recoginzing out inherant duplicity

quote: Originally posted by trask: I'm glad you qualified your last post with "but not a law", because that sounded awfully authoritarian and Nazi-ish. there should only be 3 laws..... starting with the commen sense law