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Although I was exagerating a bit for effect with the added squeeze job, (I don't know the name of the climb) something between Acne prblem and hydrotube. All three share the same anchor. It was un nesicary to put another line up in that spot, if some one were interested in the line, they could Top Rope it. Over bolting sucks. I am a chicken shit climber, But how am I suposed to get better if you put a bolt every three feet? What are you teaching me except to stay chicken shit. I think You lack vission. And I don't think you bolt with ane eye for a pleasing climb. I know you ahve been round this a million times with every one and their dog, and my oppinion means jack shit to you. Frankly, I don't care what you think of me either. But you keep saying that you do what you do for the masses of people who don't climb hard. Well I happen to be one of those people. I doubt I will ever climb 5.11. But you shouldn't dumb climbing down to my level. It gives me nothing to strive for. Shame on you.

I second Backcountry. Those guys realy know there stuff and are all around good people.

Mullets never went away....All business up front and party in the back HELL YES

not even Gumbies like myself want to be able to clip 3 routes from one stance. It makes route finding dificult for us blondes

I have realized that I will never read this whole thred AND pass my final tomorrow

That's cuz we can't multi-task!! M.O.M. Master Of Multitasking

Please forgive... I've been bussy all day, catching up now Statisticly this is incorrect. Men actualy do better in relationships health wise and socialy than women do. Frequently older men whose spouse dies (or something) have a more dificult time functioning than a woman does. So it seems to me that men ACTUALY need the relationship more. But then thats what I get for thinking BTW this seems to happen because most women are the social instigaters in the relationship. they tend to handle family gatherings and the such... just an observation.

WERD ERIK

oh come on Trask, a guy would never admit he thought another guy was attractive. Girls notice stuff like that all the time, and have no trouble talking about it just because I think a woman is beautiful, doesn't mean I would sleep with her. It just means that I can look arround and see beauty

you're an old lesbian? yeah.....that's it. thanks for helping No, women are just more able to accept that they appriciate beauty in it's shapely forms.

I have a thing for the lead singer of Concrete Blonde (johnette something)

Good point Bronco. Nice reminder that we all should always listen to our gut instincts. My bigest dificulty is distinguishing instinct from my personal fear and worry. Fear I can move past. When my guts are screaming that something bad is about to happen, I try to listen.

I don't think that is so much suicide as choosing the time and place of your death.

Dru has the fastest mouse

Au contraire, mon frere. Newton didn't "invent" granvity any more than the maker of the first sundial "invented" time. He just "found out about it", as they say. but who invented reading comprehension?

I don't know...Iain was the first officail Snaffle Boy

Jeez e&m wasn't invented, it was merely mathematically described. Next you're gonna tell us that Newton invented Gravity. I will no longer collaborate with you on flatulatory investigations. please note the edit Dr. Dictionary. And yes Newton did invent gravity. Bastard blows my 5.14 onsights every time. THANK GOD! I now have SOMEONE to BLAME for my shitty climbing ablities. Now If I could just figure out who invented spelling

and lookee at what 3 men of science can come up with

AHHH HAAAA!!! You see I am not a nerd, there for I don't know anything

I was sort of thinking that might be hotter than Venus or something Well since we were just talking about this in Geochemistry 2 days ago let me consult my notes. Partial Pressure CO2 on Earth, 3x10^-4 Bar Average Temp -20 to 45 degress C Partial Pressure CO2 on Venus 86 Bar Average temp ~250 degrees C. Much hotter than 91. Thank you Professer

I was sort of thinking that might be hotter than Venus or something

I have to agree with Tex here. It's hot, but it's not THAT hot to cool down is sounding NICE