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10/12 - day 32, lap 14 - by my rough calculations it's been 14975.25 days since i left the womb - my 41st birthday at any rate - felt a wee bit nervous on the ascent, who wants a fuck'n snarky foot-note on their fell tome? large meteorite strike near the young warriors cleaing - a 100'lb'er i'd say, half-buried in it's impact crater - musta fallen since last friday - nut booty on p2, should you wish to slum it...

Well, I don't know, was the thread a request for honest discussion or feckless praise? And I definitely wouldn't have done YW the way it was put up either. Again, I find the rationales (and thread title) almost more troubling than the actual route and alpine settings are literally the last places on Earth that need 'routesetting' and sport climbs. Do love the code-wording involved with "modern classic", though. i'll grant ye that "route-setting" is right-gay, word-wise i have no skin in this game and engage as a true outsider - i have actually done some climbing in this area though (a simple solo w/ 16 cans of beer i recall up vesper's standard-route n' an enjoyable bivy on the summit) and wouldn't think of it as super-alpine - it's pretty close to a road and the local hills about it are pretty chill, it doesn't feel like the n cascades at all - it's not too different from beacon really if you had put up young warriors in the style of your choice, do you think it would be as popular? like it or not, the meaning of "classic" is definitely caught up in that concept. i'm not hard-core one way or the other - bolting near a natural gear placement is ghey on its face, that i'll gladly grant you, but objecting to bolts in near every situation results in bullshit too. it stokes the ego to see everything as a warrior-hero-poet-god-king, but the truth is everything humans do is horseshit, from graffiti to the grand ducal palace.

10/8 - a proudly prime one, trip 31, lap 13 - the rain of yesterday quite dissolved - lord i got lit up on the front end of the day - the Panda Problem Considered - the teacher's year quite systematic - day 1 you pick up a ball and start tossing it around, day 2 they hand you another, then another, then another - somewhere near the 15% mark you start feeling awed by your own power, True Master of the Impossible, then soon thereafter get the first solid cold of the season, struck down like a simpleton on the path to damascus, even as the balls pile up, and often give in to base despair my tower rock trip quite tossed out, i look forward to 3 days worth of tending bulging buds n' shifting out smith-wards w/ Big Ben

i'd agree - media violence doesn't do shit, in and of itself - crazy warlords can and do use violent movies to prime child-soldiers, but then of course they also then imediately take them out to shoot puppies and hack off arms to re-inforce the lesson- me n' my boy play call of duty then take a walk and get some ice-cream and he's a gentle-soul - violent media might have some sort of multiplier effect, but it's only going to operate on a small section of the population

2 folks is a way-small gene-pool for spray assuming our boy is crazy, so what? i talk w/ crazy-people all the time - what exactly are you afraid of?

i don't get it joe - young warrior's 5 pitches, this one's 7 - both done in more or less the same style - why the protest? i would agree though, if nothing else, the term "route-setter" is deep-ghey

jeebus. assumption confirmed. hoping homo fucku is going to evolve past its violence-fetish seems a lot like thinking it'd ever evolve past porn from beowulf on we've been fascinated w/ revenge n' rage n' all that that entails (i type this while also watching my boy hopping up n' down in glee playing "call of duty" )

then why are you in spray? boring conversing w/ a person w/ no interest in listening to replies...

we deny epileptics the right to drive a car b/c they might have seizures while driving, no? color-blind folks are denied pilot's licenses b/c they might crash their planes people are denied security-clearances frequently on the basis that their past indicates a chance they will be untrustworthy in the future we deny convicts voting rights based on some hazy fear they'll use that power to a nefarious end this isn't "minority report" what exactly is the thing we're trying to solve? mass-shootings are admittedly hard, but then they're only a very small part of the gun-death problem. if total gun-deaths are what we're going after, it's an easier nut to crack.

if hard-bodied 20-something females are flocking to your route, do the ethics even matter? let's be honest brothers...

hard to comprehend n' capture fall in this fell-land of cyprus n' cedar n' everywhere-evergreen - congrats

you wax hysteric - christ, if you can count on solid-gold seattle libtards for anything, it's their essential good-heartedness...

10/6 - deo XXX - 12th lap the rain threatens - doom upon us all - salvation is distant and saviors hesitant - desperate days and short time - the gods grow grim as the sun goes gaunt, the skin of the world is paper thin ruminations upon the libido rightly considered on the cruise out - the Lion Behind the Glass - the allure of danger safely contained, the frenzy in the fear, the prospect of passion set free upon an unprepared world - what waits said is goddamn-straight and will always be so, you just gotta keep that devil down in the hole a lonely corner crawl, light wind and cool commons - frogs for friends - beer n' a book on the ledge - the long way off the Keeper of the Ken on the verge of the Second Coming - his one hand washes the other - He Fears Nothing

yeah...me probably explains why i don't own anything more lethal than ice tools n' a baseball bat pat, do you happen to know how things parse out, comparing nippon to us true-blood 'mericans, when their non-gun suicides are thrown into gun-death comparisons? a wonkish question for sure, but that shit's up your alley. my assumption is still way more folks die needlessly here than there, but it'd be nice to check the math

would such checks actually have prevented this incident? or a large percentage of the previous 50 mass shootings? new laws seem to appeal to a certain "type" of person. I'm more for things that actually work and address the issue they claim to you didn't answer the question, but i'll answer yours the conversation about gun rights is bigger than the conversation about any particular tragedy - the reality though is that it's only these sensational tragedies that produce the juice to actually get the bigger conversation going no, it doesn't look like back-ground checks would have done much in this instance - I don't know about other mass shootings (beside perhaps the Virginia tech one? I seem to recall there was some good documentation of mental health issues w/ that guy). the point is the vast majority of gun deaths aren't by crazy psychos in mass shootings - it's nickel and dime bullshit caused by depression and suicide and felons doing criminal things, right? seems more fertile ground for background checks putting a dent in the body count then.

the only deadly weapon ole'pat's pack'n is between his legs, and whol-eee shit how i'd like not to see it again if ever i could it being such an ossified issue, i see little hope of shifting anyone - the pt is that any one gun incident is largely irrelevant in terms of addressing the overall problem of more americans dying via guns, per capita, than the rest of the civilized world - newburg ain't un-important, it's just a small part of a much bigger picture - do you really object to tvash's main practical argument above: comprehensive background checks?

10/5 - day 29 - lap 11 indian summer is set upon us for a few more days at least - my birthday weekend sadly to be scuppered it seems by the soon-come falling goddamn damps - what can you do? thought for sure i had a Serious Bidness meeting afterschool but suddenly found meself free at the last minute so cast off in a frenzy just a few moments after the masses made their exit the orbit out obsessed w/ the same old mystery - the cuckold's enigma of the simple n' complex - the burden and wreck of the butterfly's breath on our noosed-necks old arlo sporting a curious queue, i breezed by quiet unawares father time and the mangled mayor n' the Keeper of the Ken - the world half-digested n' soon spat out - the setting sun n' the return to the sane and mundane

this graph would seem to indicate a decent way to reduce gun deaths is just to reduce gun ownership - seems a no-shit deduction, but whatever... also, just living in a tropical paradise seems a good way not to get kilt by angry gun-toting psychos

not that I've vetted this list, but I remember at least the 2007 church shooting http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ehVw7yNA1 again, I'm not saying I'm for this approach, but to dismiss it as totally ineffective is wrong - anybody, cop or civilian, who distracts a psycho w/ a gun by shooting at him is going to buy time for more cops to show up and more folks to escape - whether that benefit is scuppered by cops shooting armed friendly civilians and armed civilians just generally shooting more people at all times I couldn't say

humans will always kill each other. there is no problem that is 'solvable' here I agree, the angry-monkey problem is not solvable - "manageable" is no doubt the better word (but one that would make George carlin angry ) and clearly that problem IS manageable - there's consensus on plenty of management ideas already, no? no guns for felons, no machine guns for anybody, etc. I haven't heard anything about this recent shooting that much could have been improved on beyond the NRA wet-dream of "arm everybody" which I still believe would ultimately yield more carnage than it would prevent

"Any man who inflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood.” - H. L. Mencken.

shit, i ain't no navy seal - a month w/o burgundy n' i'm gonna break down n' throw in my lot w/ my zombie-brethern

between the squadron of chickens, the peck of piranhas in the fish-tank, the guinea pigs in the kids bedrooms n' the gawdamn dog, i'm hoping to make it through the first month of the apocalypse w/o having to wander outside for fresh meat

is there a popcorn maker up there w/ a 2 mile extension cord on it?

true or not this assertion, the most logical way to understand the problem is...to fawking study the problem. refusing the cdc the power to study gun violence is clearly political and clearly intended to prevent future gun regulation, even if warranted sure, there were mass killings in the past, but the media of the past wasn't that different from today, at least in terms of its politics and its interests - the perception that these kinds of attacks have become more common seems very likely true