jeeezzzus, did i say they must climb godzilla...all i think i thought i said (weeks ago) was it is a good beginning climb in the index climbing area as you asked for more possibilities (also near heart of country nice crack by tunnel 5.7, GM 5.8).
i am glad they are getting out...you are right climbing is climbing...
and for the grades, sorry i dont own a book with what the numbers mean but a comp i was in when i was a teen said that 5.9 was beginner and 10 intermediate, 11advanced...
i just extrapolated the rest.
guess thats what i get for believing gyms'
did i say they know how to rap, i said it is a fun rap..as a tr they would be lowered....sorry for treading so abruptly on your thread. i will resist the urge from now on.