Szyjakowski

no no no. granite----szyjakowski's head---scar----bt---beer---climbing

If you want to discuss or critique the way it was done (method) and whether is was "clumsy", feel free to PM me. I was one of the 3 people who chopped it. That said, I think this is a distraction from what we are trying to discuss. I think Bug raises some important issues in his post above. We would benefit more from addressing and discussing those points than rehashing this one specific incident. ican't believe viktor actually put that in his route description...what a shame. the route was led on gear..i do recall that it had a few pitons, but perhaps it can protect with new widgets. the fact that remains is it was led with gear (preplaced or not, it takes gear). that picture of croft on airstream with bolts near some rp cracks is almost a shame...the crack looks like (to me) not very gear friendly unless you pound a piton. pitons damage rock like bolts..so there is not difference...that being said perhaps viktor's statement isn't that out of the playing field. the route probably needs a few bolts near wear pitons used to exhist, constituting a mixed lead....

i just got my own copy of this relic!

shale----slate---phyllite----schist----gneiss----mylonite

hahahaha do you need some more lance?

yah mean its not like northern di? oh sweet baby jeezus. i have not been up to the enchanments since, aug 7th i want to go this weekend tho. any of you crack climbing dirt lovers interested???

sweetness! boula is in drainage after crystal creek, no? and were those 9stfuacysm length pitches?

yeah its amazing what you remember when you stare at something everyday as a kid. take anotha bt 4me

i will give you one 40

climb to the ridge crest and then traverse it south to the short single rap above OS topout. great climbing and cool position on the wall.

Liar!

ratgroup, more-or-less left to right==> doulith, mole, croc fang , shrew, monkey's head, blockhouse with rhombic, and the hook.

this will be so edited! good book btw: mr abbey has such a way with words.

julie. come to needles!

specifically in seattle.. good breakfast joint and also tasty pies... wheres your favorite? other towns kewl too... renaissance cafe in ltown is good.

i usually have an extra belay device in my pack.

munter hitch.

lets go now!

special you crack me up. in regards to your previous post what happens if you send a pitch after you rode a bike the day before and you hitchhiked to the crag today, suckered someone for a belay, used two different shoes, ran outa of chalk at the crux, zclipped once, skipped 3bolts at the end, took your shirt off after sending the crux and never saw the climb except in a movie and in all the mags??

CBS you are as dumb as that fink from the UW. Sure science benefits mankind. Sure medicine is great and saves lives. Seriously though, IN the ICICLE , Science Research is a fukin joke. How ever many days, months, years it takes to build and operate this so-called "cutting-edge" research lab is not worth the tradeoff. IF you do not understand, obviously as energetic as you are about climbing, you still do not understand Why so many people climb and love to chill in the icicle creek. Fukin open your eyes....

do not vote for bush.

are you drinking again? seriously...what do you feel about your name being in this post? hah!! bolts have their place. just not next to rp cracks or even chimneys. the bolts on the eface of lexington are joke. so are many bolts in frenchmans and the icicle even in the index area... we humans are soft pansies and hate to take chances i guess. but then a rack of draws is so much lighter....................... i wouldnt tell bigbrother about a wilderness sinner but I may tell the sinner off and also mention it to retrosaurus about the new atrocity. lance keep your beta locked tight!!

i am now a firm believer that trees can lead to misfortune... but if the tree is a larche. please descend upon it.

HOLY FUCKIN SHIT... how many times climbing do you think the pussy watches you move up the stone? scarrry!