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Nixon was framed.

I forgot to mention that the happies and sads are usually climbable, regardless of the weather. they are more protected from the wind, and lower, hence warmer. i find both places to be super fun, with steep and athletic climbing on pockets and edges at all grades.

that bad, eh? can't wait to see the new you....

Check the extended forecast; usually the weather is pretty stable down there. If it snowed that much and it remains cold, you might not be topping out problems in the buttermilks....

Ahhh top secret, yet right under your nose, pope. As a matter of fact, I'll guarantee that you've walked within twenty feet of the big line, and within fifty of the shorty. And MisterE, different cave at a different locale! Although yes indeedy the one you show is super fun too....

Oh pope you poor puppy you. you don't have a clue as to the beauty of how well those lines climb. absolutely the best steep sickness that i've come across in this state. the big cave above is looooooong and oh so full body, and the shorter one is really just an extended boulder problem at twenty moves long, but what twenty moves! you see, i get the best of both worlds: alpine AND super-delish sporto overhanging happiness!

everyone got issues, and yeah they probably did.

What, your goals? I recommend you start here: hey that might be fun too, although i don't think i'll put it on the goal list. so what are your goals poop?

Ugh! How do I resize??????????? (Whew!)

I think 2006 deserves its own thread. My goals: Redpoint this: And this: And a couple of things at Index. Oh and hang a 1/2" edge one-handed for 5 seconds.

Is climbing an activity that is borne of love, or a need to prove one's self-worth? I see both motives at work within myself, and perhaps everyone I have ever climbed with. When it becomes more of the latter, my climbing goes to pot. I become more competitive with others, I don't wish for their success, I harbor resentment and crappy feelings about myself, and all I can dwell on are the "failures". It seems pretty funny when I'm out of that cycle, but during it, it sucks!

poor editing, page top fool!

Hitler's arms must have been tree-trunks from carrying all the jews to the ovens, and mao's trigger finger got so big he had to have a specially made pistol. and don't even mention pol pot. and when the frame of reference is reoriented, bush is pretty burly too from hoisting all those bunker busters and cluster bombs and napalm and phosphorous bombs on all those iraqis.

Yeah boy the guys you all speak of were a pretty busy group to have killed as many as you are saying they did!

comparisons are odious. avoid them by all means. let them lose all significance.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your intent. I was very tired. perhaps. you had posted at a previous time about one's inability to improve after a certain age, and it seemed to me that implicit within this sentiment was the feeling that this applied to you. don't get me wrong: i don't think "improvement" is the only axis which climbing revolves around; but, if one does wish to reach for a more esoteric level of climbing, then i do think that the opportunity is there for anyone who chooses to do so. i think it takes some willingness to believe that this is possible, and then inspired hard work (and fun).

why? i'd have to say i agree with what dwayner says above.

damn man, rough. tryin' to psych you up and gettin' the slapdown.... I guess I'll stick to posting about knots and shit like that.

Check out this news from across the pond, ya stinkin' thinker.... wadda ya say now, mr.?

I've had a lot of fun at a place called Zipolite, north of puerto escondido, way south on the pacific side. it was a cool mellow relatively unknown international counterculture hippie hangout in the early nineties, but was definitely getting more popular, sadly but understandably. Lived in a hammock under a palapa for three weeks or so (how quickly time went by there!), bodysurfing and diving and relaxing and eating awesome local seafood, all for a few bucks a day. Worth a visit I think, if you're in the area.

that's fucked up. my dad was a scientist, and he was kidnapped by a dinosaur. you suck. i can't talk to you anymore. your a very bad person. whatever.

yay! O.K. Here's "why" Dwayner was banned, as he understands it: A certain moderator whose identity has already been alluded to (perhaps in company with others), first called him, and threatened to ban him, claiming that his posts on ethical matters were "disruptive" and "manipulative". Dwayner was told to "tone it down" or be banned. It was not that his posts were vulgar, cruel or threatening (which seems to be regularly tolerated here), it was a matter of style and intensity. Said moderator also insisted that Dwayner was insincere (a.k.a: a liar) when D. claimed that D. didn't really care if people responded to his posts, nor was anyone required to create a spray-fest as a result. [To accurately second-guess Dwayner's intentions would require great feats of mind-reading powers, which said moderator certainly does not possess.] If a moderator believed that Dwayner's posts were manipulative, than said moderator must also believe the patronizing notion that the readership of cc.com is naive and gullible and needs to be protected from unpopular ethical or other notions presented in some sort of clever and deceptive way that will somehow lead them astray. Apparently, readers are unable to read and/or ignore and/or scroll by Dwayner's posts if they disagree, and must fight an uncontrollable urge to respond and thereby disrupt the proceedings! Therefore, when Dwayner did not conform, a banning was necessary: TO PROTECT YOU from Dwayner and his obnoxious ideas!!! Contrary to one rumor (or misunderstanding on the part of above said moderator), D. never agreed to drop his stance or style.) Dwayner espouses a clean-climbing ethic. Bolts play a controversial role in that ethic. Permanent alteration of the environment by bolt-dependent sport-climbing is the anti-thesis of this viewpoint, a viewpoint that is held by more than a few, yet is rarely presented to new climbers today because the implications are inconvenient both to those who want an easy-to-achieve thrill, and the gear suppliers who feed on it. Anyway, after a few "avatar" changes, which when discovered were likewise banned, "Dwayner" was permanently tossed aside over a year ago. The final straw might have been when he objected to the bolting that took place in a cave in Oregon which climbers (along with local rednecks tossing tires, bottles and garbage), essentially trashed with bolts and chalk. A climber complaining about other climbers behavior? Shocking!!!! Or was it his disgust with the line of bolts (someone's idea of a "project"), complete with abandoned quick-draws and biner's, on a short section of rock near the Tooth? (Rap wall?)after which three "moderators" aggressively attacked him for that opinion. Or maybe that he thinks "Infinite Bliss" is an atrocity and should be erased? Dwayner apparently also pissed off Jon, the site-owner, with a topic called something like "cc.com jumps the shark" which was intended to be a fun discussion about the crappiest TOPIC presented on the site, NOT THE SITE ITSELF. This is a misunderstanding which I know he regrets; because despite the large volume of ridiculous this and that on cc.com, there is a core of very useful information shared here. There's the Dwayner story, as he understands it. Is it fair? Come to your own conclusion. Jon is right, this site, although it is publically accessible, is ultimately private, and he and his team of "moderators", can control participation as they please. As "Dwayner" is no longer allowed to post nor defend himself "first-hand", you get it here, "second-hand". - Textileman P.S. "Catbird" writes: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pope, I challenge you to be other than the one-dimensional bore that you have been. If you could expound on other facets of climbing than this one issue, people might take you more seriously... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Catbird", I challenge you to take a good look in the mirror, mister, and then read all the superficial nonsense you've posted for years....then come back and see if you could again, in good conscience, write what you did above. He's a very good climber with many years of experience. Sit down and listen, big-shot. Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The fact is that you take the most extreme view possible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are not the most extreme views. There are viewpoints out there that would have the whole world of climbing shut down. You might not like (or even understand) the nature of pope's views, or his style, but they are indeed his views. Perhaps you would like to see him banned as well because you don't find him sufficiently amusing? Or you require a comfortable homogeneity in "climber-thought"? Whatever.

hey i'm sorry man, it's just that you said you were vegetarian and then it turns out you eat fish. it just threw me a bit, that's all. thanks for showing me the card and all. i do have a question though: when you kidnap the business guys and scientists and stuff, do you like torture them into telling you there secrets? do you believe in torture, or do you hypnotize them instead? thanks, sexy brown stuff.

oh ok, fully agree. but i still think he didn't get it cuz he's a weak-ass mama's boy.

no way.