Terminal_Gravity

Thank you for your concern, Carolyn. It is true; I am and

Has anybody noticied that a joint fits perfectly into the hole left in the rock after you yank out a bolt.

Captain, Your taking me way back I thought that "Philly Blunt" was a dead term. Long Live RayB For extra credit do you know what the term originally applied to? P.S. Guiness still sucks [ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]

Beer is good for you---Guiness sucks ----------- Guiness Sucks

Any one interested in a pub meeting this Thursday? Horse Brass?? ------------------- Guiness Sucks

Guiness is insipid flavorless piss brewed with more potatoes than malt.

Yes, DrE. Thanks for the compliments. I'm the head brewer here. the current seasonal is Festivale. It is in the same jaunra as Celebration & Juble but bigger and more flavorful (8.3%). Our Barley Wine will be released 12/19. All malt and weighing in at above 11.9%. The back country skiing is easily the best in Oregon. Conditions are looking good already. I would be happy to give you all the Beta you want Also, as posted on earlier discusions; I am offering free beer to any CC.comers that make it out here. Cheers, steve ___________________ Guiness sucks

I definitly had a shovel too. DPS, aiding on pickets sounds like the epitimy of hair ball. One little comment...The temptation was to sort of Chimney against the back wall as I dug up; but I felt like that added stress to the pack so I didn't. My cornice was a lot easier than AlpineK's sounds. I used poles to get to it and my axe was more in my way than useful.

I'm in...but how about your worst climb?

Thanks Bronco Philfort;It was on traverse ridge in the wallowa mountains (my local area). The snow has been building really well so far this year. The cornice was just for practice. It was something that I have always wanted to do in case it comes up on a real climb. It was about 17°F and lightly snowing. The wind was blowing parallel to the face so it was not further loading the cornice. It seemed to be as safe as possible. So, I went for it.

Has anybody read this entire discussion in a single push effort...without constitutionals?

Jay... Sounds epic enough to qualify. It sure is nice to test the whine factor in a non-life threatener.

That would follow --- What's a caveman without a club anyway?

No scope needed Cap'n. These pups passed within fifteen feet. There was no more room than that and they were intent on going down. You could have just about clonked one on the head with your axe. The ram was more interested in sniffing butts than two idiots heading up into a storm.

Nothing really epic. But while heading up a narrow ridge late Saturday morning I passed 13 Big Horn Sheep (5 young, 7 female adults and a full curl+ male) heading down fast. I'm sure they were downclimbing 5.4! At the time the barometer was droping like crazy and my partner swears he heard one of them say we were nutz as they passed. We did experience a bit of a blow toward the summit and were forced to melt snow inside the tent that night.

hikerwa, sound like you had fun too.

Where on line?

Where is Bonzo when you need him most???

I tunneled through my first cornice last weekend. It was about fifteen feet thick and overhung about 8 feet. The snow was well consolidated by wind but was fairly light and removed very easily. Digging was fast. The approach was about 30-35°. I gotta say I was a bit intimidated (okay, I was scared shitless). So, here's the question. What is the safest line to take when tunneling? I don't remember reading about cornice tunneling in any of the self help manuals. I tried to stay inside of what I guessed would be the sheer line. My guess was 60° from the start of the over hang.

Just a follow-up. I ended up buying a Marmot Lithium. $299 at bent gate (thank you Will Strickland). Some of the other light bags did not have enough room for things like boots & water bottles. I have used it twice so far, Once in a tent at 12°F and once in a snow cave at 21°F. It was plenty warm both times and was comfortable and functional. I recommend it; particularly the foot room, the zipper and the mummy closure location. For what it's worth the catalog photos don't do the color justice...it is the ugliest rotton pumkin motteled orange I have ever seen.

Thank you very much; Dru & Wes. The one that I remembered was the Simonds, Super fox. I'm ordering it

How often have you done the perfect pack trick. Except for some little emergency kit thing, the perfect pack is when you used everything but needed nothing more. You wear every thing you brought, at least once, but were never desperatly cold. And, you ate every thing you brought, but didn't ever go hungry. Out of something like 1000 outings; I can count 2. Only once was over night; and never multiday.

Lambone, Look at Scotts original post. He refers to the west butt as an EXPEDITION! I'll bet he is looking for porters

quote: Originally posted by Scott Hoelscher: Happy Trails! Scott Hoelscher 503-577-5057Cory 503-756-3899 Scott, If your so serious then why the silly " " My best guess is that you would probably be way to serious on a climb and be a real pain in the to climb with ( or just dangerous). Let me know what your schedule is so that I can avoid the mountain while your there.

I left the car at 2:00pm on Saturday and headed up a peak renamed after my daughter. I summited in the dark just in time to see the crescent moon set between the cloud layer & the mountains on the horizon. I then built my first snow cave. Well, sort of...there was only about 2 ft of snow so I used a space blanket for a roof. I built a fire, ate ramen & drank Knob Creek (yes, I have my priorities right). Then I settled in my new sleeping bag, for the light show. The clouds cleared and the fireworks were spectacular! [ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: Terminal Gravity ]