Jim

Given the level of gun responsibility in this country I really don't see a problem. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxnhgkYa9dQ

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Glad the NRA is now engaging in a meaningful discussion on sensible gun restrictions. Reasonable Discussion

How about teachers that want it, can have a bottle of mace in their desk drawer, pocket/purse, whatever? Sure. That ain't gonna kill anyone. My wife's a teacher and doesn't reach that level of paranoia. Though she worked in Montana doing field work for 5 years dodging grizzlies with no armament so I suspect she is fine.

--While the author means to point to school shootings, this seems to be the crux of the "home defense' argument of arming as well. And the one I'm always wondering about -what are all these gun owners so chickenshit about? The boogey man? What a bunch of BS. How about a baseball bat, a chair, a good kick in the head, a fire extinguisher, your old softball trophy, whatever! A dozen people - really?

Speaking of low cost borrowing: Borrow Now!

Any comparision with first world countries with funcitonal governments - Yes! We are by far the winners of the murder rate per captia. Great. We're tied with the likes of Columbia.

Exactly

The auto vs car thing crack me up. Yea, how many folks took mom's car to go run over their classmates. Cars vs Guns

Yea, no cost from the paranoid among us. True Cost

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Gretchen Morgenson of the NYTs has been reporting on these financial and Fed crooks for a number of years - if you want a good read, check out here summary of the housing fallout in Reckless Endangerment. Link to Gretchen's Articles

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Mid-term weather looking promising: Cold Front

If we can hammer it out, why can't congress?

You're absolutely spot on. Until the tax code is revamped and loopholes are eliminated, it's all just smoke and mirrors. The working class will continue to be sodomized by the affluent. Dems are just Repub-lite. Isn't the simple solution to tax dividends/interest/appreciation over a modest amount (say $50k a year) as ordinary income?

That they morph into an engorged wood tick like GD? Or that they cozy up to criminal plutocrats? Or both?

With the two-tier job category in place you'll start out at a whopping $28k a year. Hardly extravagant.

Just about every dem harped on the Bush tax cuts ONLY affecting the wealthy in any substantive way. Now everyone is saying, woah, hold on... let's rethink reverting them all back to Clinton levels. And you damn well know it. You asked what I was saying back then - and I told you. But - if your point is that Congress went along - yep, they are to blame as well - but more so the Repubs since they were in charge. In the 2001 cuts in the Senate vote 12 Dems crossed over. The 2003 cuts were more controversial since both wars had started. It was passed by reconciliation and the Senate vote was 50-51, with VP Darth Vader breaking the tie. Only 2 Dems crossed over for that vote.

The same thing - unnecessary war and stupid to have a tax cut.

Oh, I will get dinged, but I'll manage. I just don't think "borrow and spend" is fiscally responsible. Just for the record here's what I said way back in mid 2011. e.

No. That's not true. I've been consistent on the need to get read of ALL the Bushie tax cuts. They were irresponsible and have significantly contributed to our present position - that and running an unnecessary invasion of Iraq. AND the logic of running those wars as "off-budget" items. Brilliant.

You should be jumping for joy - the cliff gives you Clinton-era tax rates for ALL! You know the era of massive growth and prosperity! I actually DO think all the Bush era tax cuts should be eliminated - above and below $250k. Do the $250k now and phase in the others late given the weak economy. It was irresponsible to cut taxes and go to war at the same time. And yea, cut the military 10% - that minor trim is way overdue.

It was the Republicans that wanted the "fiscal cliff" set up as a result of their uncompromising position on the last go-around on the debt ceiling. And now they are doing the same thing - no compromise. It's not reassuring at all to the financial markets and an odd way of running a budget. As for democracy - the majority of Americans want a the tax break for $250k+ earners to expire. Just get on with it already.

Well, there's a quite a few straw dogs in that narrative. No one is proposing ignition breathlizers - it's simple - there is a drunk driving law, you ignore it and there are consequences. Same thing with level of armament. Some levels of distruction are just too much for any reasonable person - a tank? Yea, the problem arises when Ted turns wacko or "forgets" to secure it and his crazy stepson decides to take it for a spin to chash in on some old middle-school trauma. We have reviewed the Bill of Rights before as society has progressed - so there's no reason to think it's set in concrete. There is a point about the flood of guns already out there. But I don't see it as a reason to do nothing for the future of our kids.