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ehmmic, i'm going to try and arrive by seven, and leave early... also, may want to do a little rope up planning if key members are present.

the old pequliar is so much more real than the pig and whistle- that friggin' "irish" pub didn't even have Guinness on tap when Pub Club was there- WTF is up with that? Old Pequliar

we could meet at the sunrise parking lot on the fourth of july and ski the sonnofabitch. Who cares how much vert it's got? if there's snow, we should ski it. ze ridge, it must go up ze hill, yes? schuss back to ze car?

..have several good quotes, and a reference on a good book on post's original subject. "Citus,Altus, Fortis" latin, i think.... "Fast, High, Strong." or " deep in the wild mountains, is a wild marketplace where you can trade the hassle and noise of everyday life for eternal Light" - Milarepa and an off the cuff, lighthearted look at waiting out a storm in some snow cave, "if we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs." but a good quote about the reasons why we climb- "we now appreciated everything around us. each individual crystal in the granite stood out in bold relief...How could one be bored with so many good things to see and feel/ This unity with our joyous surroundings, this ultra penetrating perception, gave us a feeling of contentment that we had not had for years." Yvon Chouinard after eight days on el Cap. great book... "Bone Games: extreme sports, shaminism, zen, and the search for transcendence." by Rob Schultheis

....try em, you'll like em! lightweight climbing boots have so totally advanced in the last two years, go out and buy some new klettershoes and get back on the bus!

Dave- ski party the weekend after the fourth of july, otherwise i can go ski thursday- friday this week and be back in Seattle for fireworks friday the fourth. i'm down with going to russell glacier, or sunrise, or artist point on the third or fourth. the weekend after, the full moon, fri-sat-sun-mon 4 day ski trip to the Dakobed icefields? Summer skiing, anyone?

...rode my bike to the Market...had a beer at ten am with my boss... drank beer all day at my office and worked on the newspaper...this month, fourty one advertisers! ...took a nap, up again, thinkin about a steak dinner...

i prefer to celebrate and get away on the bastille day weekend, usually, (and this year it is the full moon) libertie its usually fun to watch the huge boomers in Seattle though (wow is that what gunpowder is best used for?) but this is just my strategy on july.

jon, is there any way to search by date parameters?

lightweight shoes are the way to go, you'll be so refreshed versus wearing your boots... on a recent ski traverse trip, when i got back to wear i could wear my shoes again, i jogged for fourty five minutes with my backpack, carrying skis and boots, because i could, and my feet felt so good at the end of the trip, versus wearing boots the whole time.

mattp i'd be there but am working marmot until after six and my newspaper deadline is this friday so i'm freakin swamped.... id be happy to be tlgs belay slave, so long as shes not drytooling!

yas touray, congratulations yourself, but when I passed your climbing partner on the trail back to the cars, i noticed you guys didn't have any skis? anyway, i'm thinking of heading up there with the skis in mid july again, if any one wants to go.

how soon do you get to ride them?

thanks TLG! that means a lot to me- i'm just an organizing fool, been one for a long time-but the funny thing is, TLG, the more you've got going on, the more you can do... it's funny that way. this third ropeup should prove to be quite nice , if the stars hold course true until the event...

its nothing to get your panties in a bunch over, greg, but an organizer for the smiff event would hopefully realize putting events on same weekend would only dilute both.... and by the way, the dates already been set...Oct 10-11-12 in Leavenworth.

i didn't park at the trailhead pass required parking area without a trail parks pass, you figure it out....

have any of you people noticed how immaculately the trailhead restrooms and roads are maintained along the Mountain Loop Hiway? you could bring a mother-in-law camping out there and she wouldn't object... or the recent improvments to the staircase area in the olympics? Ashael Curtis area in Snoq pass also, etc... there are also hundreds of trailheads in washington state that DON'T require trail park passes.. and the handy quarter mile rule if you're truly a dirtbag climber and can't afford it

...you all have flippin fantastic ideas for the ropeup, we'll see what can be incorporated into the fun!

..and then, our f***** up american republicans will close trailhead access because of a project that is a decade in the making failing. Dru, you're a canook, its a bit fouler here south of the border...

any ski mountaineers interested in a three/four day trip up into the dakobed range in earlyish july? probably 35-40 miles Round Trip into the whitechuck, the suiattle and honeycomb glaciers, and hanging out and yoyoing for some of the trip? Glacier skiing ablity less important than the ability to travel far and suffer in that regard. need to bring basic glacier travel gear, and not be a complete idiot when it comes to summer snow. 10ish miles a day.

marmot in bellevue carries the yates harnesses. they carry the shield, the big wall, the 8000 meter, and the alpinist.

....we should have more than one free keg, carolyn, but if you want to "steward the barrel" up from TG, we would be forever in your debt. and we are still looking for any good ideas for events to do at the ropeup. It's just that setting things in motion required a certain early solidification of dates to bring in some cool stuff for all to enjoy, like more beer! and more important things....planning these things takes more than a few hours.. for fun events, we want to stay away from the milk chug idea.so what about a tug of war across the river if its' hot out? climbers pick a coed team of six?

okay, I don't know anyone who is organizing this thing except me and hikerwa, I honestly don't care about the smiffy contingent diluting the third annual full moon ropeup for the full moon in October- organizing a climbers' festival isn't a democratic proccess like a pub club destination, it's work, money and time. if you guys don't want to come and stay closer to home, sorry, you'll jus be missing out. Bridge Creek Group Camp site has been rented for October 10,11, leaving Sunday the 12th. This year, ostensibly, more free beer, we're working on a shwag bag full of cheap goodies, definetly free camping at the group site, a gear raffle to benefit some venerated climbing institutions, the editor/lead rock jockey of the American Alpine Journal, possibly some more muckymucks, probably some gear reps, a bratwurst feed Saturday night, and a pancake breakfast Sunday. Maybe climbing shoe demos. Possibly a slide show presentation Saturday night. Working with the Access Fund to set up a mini service project, to get good climbers cred with the FS rangers there. If you oregon people want to top that, do it on another weekend please. Don't be square, be there- at Bridge Creek Oct 10-11-12 for the third annual Cascade Climbers Full Moon Ropeup.

and you can't drive to the trails without paying a tax that gets spent by other beauracracies, food/gas/sales tax to pay the man- and a large percent of the trail park pass goes directly back into trail maintence and actual capital improvements projects in the state that sells the pass- i believe it is about 80%... it does not go to buy the tool more radios or bullshizzie. If you look at a list of projects completed in Washington state via fee demo funding, it's pretty impressive. you pay, the state or FS gets 80% to fix things up in the woods. it's 30 bucks- forego the stupid titanium spork and buy the park pass, you're doing a GOOD thing. on the other hand, I've see two paid state employees handing out the violations at the railroad grade parking area, even though they were the $5 violation notices, it seemed very inneficient to have two people handing out tickets on the clock, vs some trail work or trash pickup. and don't forget you pay the man in gas taxes everytime you drive up the icicle road regardless, quit being such cheapass "me me me" people, and look at a larger picture- the feds are giving a lot less money to maintain things nowadays, do you want the tool to just close the roads altogther, because that is one of their options if they don't get funding to keep trailheads open. The mandate of fair use is an impressive argument, but specious. grow up people! in a regulated society, payment for use is fair and expected. like someone mentioned earlier, The days of free recreation in the wilderness is over!

gee, thanks all! I'm just an assertive sonofavbitch-one of my first adult jobs was managing a hotel/bar/ gambling joint in a mountain town in the Great Basin when I was 17. Was left to mind the whole joint when the boss would go to Vegas, or Mexico....guys with guns, drunk cowboys, hotel's own call girl, 50,000 bucks in the safe room (small gambling operation) and a caveat to "take care of business" got me my stripes PDQ. Cojones of steel. -when the rest of my high school buddies were neck deep in senior projects and worrying about curfew and their daddies car, I was running a hotel with slot machines and a hooker in the mountains, kicking ass and taking names. calling "bullshit" since 1968.