Cpt.Caveman

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Dru after all the miners in the area and ther research I am going to have to quit my job and join you in mining, see you there.

My controversial remarks - I am sure to get some love But I think Harry is being a little too critical without facts even though I offer none other than argument I believe they are valid args- The only correctly situated name is Katsuk Peak ("center"), which is indeed located in the center of Ragged Ridge. This, however, is an uninspired and particularly infelicitous choice, which easily lends itself to a suggestive corruption. Considering the manner in which some names here on cc.com are routinely debased during banter in the Spray forum, I don't think that anyone in their right mind would select "Katsuk" as an avatar. To argue this as uninspired is likely untrue. Have you asked or inquired or corresponded about the naming? When viewed from particular areas whether that be trappers, indians, hunters, or miners it may have been a center peak or the center of a ridge... I doubt we would select Katsuk as an avatar until now. "Mesahchie Peak" is particularly inappropriate and offensive, because it carries with it the specific definition of "wicked." Why this particular term was selected and approved, by individuals who had never visited Ragged Ridge, is unclear. It is unlikely that an overwhelmingly majority of climbers on Mesahchie Peak would ascribe this particular moral attribute to this particular inanimate mountain. Why this particular term was selected and approved, by individuals who had never visited Ragged Ridge, is unclear. A good start to the discussion but you bring little to the table. The Mudays had a name for Waddington then the british as mystery then finally it was called Waddington. Open the eyes a little more. The first ascent of "Mesahchie" Peak 8795' was made on July 5, 1966 by Prof. Joseph Firey, Joan Firey, along with John and Irene Meulemans (1967 Mountaineer p. 128). They were the first climbing party to visit Ragged Ridge This being the first ascent of a previously unnamed peak, the first-ascent party thereby had the right to name this mountain: the Fireys named it Panther Peak (1970 M. p. 104; 1970 AAJ p. 121). This is a zoologically and traditionally appropriate term, derived from nearby Panther Creek which drains the north side of Ragged Ridge. "thereby had the right to name this mountain" This is often a arrogant and a blanket untrue assumption. I propose Turtlehead or Flattop but will they be true-likely no....

Poncho dont yank yer lefty - That is the best photo from that area I have ever viewed. Thanks!

Perfect timing to see nobody.. The blaze will be far enough away to enjoy the spirits of the mountains and the bridge out deal is really comical this time of year if you are savvy; which I read that you are. Go for it.

Speaking of mining- There appeared to be a particulary curious looking spot about 200meters southeast of Foggy Lake or Crater Lake (Beckey arguing) with a start of a mine. It was mentioned by my partner that it could be a well. Logically it is 200M from a giant lake and I cannot make the connection from the design to a well - even though it appeared one if you were in dry country. The said area is only about 6-8 feet deep and has a wall of surrounding rocks on 3 sides. I am sure thousands have seen it. If I was to bivy there I would take it apart for investigation. Weird. The mines near Sheep Gap Mountain are also a short distance away. However I believe the best mining areas near there are in the Monte Cristo Group. I invite photos. I will take pictures of mines if I see them in the future. Does anyone have any to share?

Dear, billcoe Sounds cool to me. And this is the exact type of discussion I am looking for. Whether or not you have a video is irrelevent. My intentions of creating this topic are- In the future I would like anyone to record human or nature examples of this type as long as nobody is injured. I remember seeing a good trundle this weekend but not the best I have seen. So I figured to start the discussion. Thanks for sharing.

Or maybe you meant paint on bathing suit on a whale of a model ????

Why would a magnetism study interest a geologist here? My weekend is not complete unless the bolt police respond with confirmation.

Are you positive of Granite or was it Gneiss? This snaffle's heritage will morph to be a heinous bloodline of harassment due to your efforts. You should biologically be more correct and not feed the wild animals. You will not be considered in the AAJ or CAJ from reporting information due to your actions.

ever consider the name 'kaskade klydesdale klimber klub'? minimum weight 200lbs. Weight has a some factors with height. Plus there are more factors than that. Thanks smarty

whaaat? id rather watch paint dry or asphalt grow. Yes you admittedly might. I would rather climb. If I saw paint dry and filmed it I would immediately report it to the police.

Member of the Kaskade Fatman's Klimber Klub getting water. Our Klub Membership is at an all time high. We even have members (although maybe not admittedly in the public) of "Cascade Legends" and others from many different states. There is strict regulation of body fat and if you mention that you have a climbing resume, or are competitive enough to obtain a number of summits for competitions you cannot be inducted into our worthy and respected klub for membership. All those that have climbing resumes- Do you get a job if you aint a guide with a climbing resume. We are so spiritual and worthy our guts speak for us.

Mining?

It looks like a perfect spot for it. Most of the time in order to capture spontaneous ice or maybe not you have to wait. Go for it is all I am saying. The person that captures the pocket of death glacier on slesse sliding in entirety or mostly will be the trundle reporter of the decade

amazing. My view is not to get a report unless you video it so everyone can share. Alhtough that does not disqualify any verbal\written reports either. It's fun to share if you can and I dont want to alienate any trundle reports There is something to be said about the joy of safely trundling. I am sure many people have done it. Maybe at the end of each season we might have the best of 2004 trundles for instance.

I was scrambling through some bushes this weekend and came across the idea of a Weekend Trundle Report. If you have a digi camera feel compelled to safely trundle link it. I will next summer trundle more and report with video when possible. I hope someone else does. Trundling is fun if you are not harming anyone. If anyone has a new or old trundle video we should see it. Bronco forgot to remind me to trundle and video it with the camera. Cheers.

This sounds completely contrived for such a long report. it's interesting to hear about the peak.

No we did not do the Castle Peaks, but my photo is one of them. I did not feel very interested. The rocks there are very nice. More than Juan

We found Gothic Peak was about a 60foot scramble. Kind of boring unless you link it with Del Campo and or the Castle Peaks. The place is crowded but still nice.

In all reality I did not see too many fall colors yesterday. Hall Peak may never interest me.. Bronco and I went up scrambling in Gothic Basin.

Here is my info I sent to a friend not going this weekend: Here's the recent info about Forbidden ERD- The unnamed glacier is busted up. To gain the east ridge you will not need to walk on it though. To gain the west ridge you can climb around and left of the left edge to avoid falling blocks of ice. If going for the ER then climb up the gulley on the right of the basin just out of the way of the falling ice. There are cairns marking some of the way. There will be water flows in the gulley but it will be away from the glacier ice that seems to fall whenever it wants.. Anyway the gulley ends at a sheet of snow\ice low angle. Put on some crampons (aluminums are fine) and hike about 200 yards up to where the snow ends angling up and right into another short gulley. Ascend the slabs and scree to near the crest and work left up towards the base of the route. I recommend the NE ledges descent. That means if you choose to do this descent you can leave your packs at the base of the route. Climb 8 pitches of rock pro to 2 inches 8 long slings or so. When in doubt bypass things on the right. The east summit is the true summit. Just south of it you will find the first rappell. Make 5 rappels and then sideways climb back to near a gulley below the start of the route. Dont bother ascending the gulley. An easier option and better is to climb the rock just to it's right and up to your packs. Descend your way back home. Be extra careful about the final rappel(5th) on the descent. I recommend leaving a stopper behind in the crack there. I left one but it could already be gone. Tiny ones should work. Test the anchor when you get there and you will see what I mean. It appeared good for downward pull but not outward... If you go this is a good time of the year. No snow on the rock.

Forbidden Peak is not an easy descent for most. Either way you choose to logically go - NE ledges descent of downclimbing the WR. The variant start is left of the couloir. I have not done it. My friend Dan Hughes rates it at 5th class but had some mumblings that I recall not being exactly the rating in Beckey's book at 4th class. Since I was not there and have not done this I cannot confirm any of it. There may be an easier way than the way they went. If you just want to climb Forbidden in a day I firmly believe the ERD route is probably the easiest for terrain issues depending on how well you can move over moderate terrain. It does not require a variation start that is less known. I believe the crampons are necessary for about 200 yards only since that is the only time we used them. After talking with people on the route most discover is 8 pitches of rock at about a moderate rating. Most difficulties can be described as if you are in a hurry or in doubt bypass on the right... If you want some details feel free to send message.

Who were the heathens? Them dudes I was drinking liquor with?

Morning star peak can be 2 logical ways of quickness from the same approach to Sperry. The slabs on the East or Northeast are safer under less snow conditions in the spring or winter. I have not done that but it is obvious. The snow would sit on slabs during that time period I mentioned... Another way is to hike into the basin between Morning Star and Sperry - very short and nice and the same approach. Then ascend up and left at the head of the basin. I am not sure any of my details of MS peak would be of value from the basin from between MS and Sperry since there was new snow and low snowfall year this past January or was it December. But I would guess some nasty rock gullies would be found.. That said maybe if you went this weekend go to the slabs on the east or northeast. My bearing remarks are gaper style since I often dont have a map or compass.