Peter_Puget

quote: Originally posted by OfficeSpace: Ability is no substitute for character and personality. Now what the hell is this supposed to mean? As far as I have seen, heard and read she has no ability, no personality that I would appreciate(even if she thinks gu is spunk)and as far as character is concerned...well. The board speaks for it self...non. Character is developed in the early stages of childhood and I think she missed that lesson. You must be pretty vacant Mr Space. Why on any given day one of her witticisms will "pop" into my head and provoke a smile or perhaps a chuckle or two. As far as ability it remains to be seen if you can even ascend our latest project!!!! Now as far as your character, attacking a young woman for shame! For shame! Please act in a way Tim and Jon could be proud of!!!! Don't be the apple that spoils the bunch! Cavey - I bet any rope you're hangin' on gets pretty thin! PP And did I mention she has good taste in music too?

Cavey - I can attest to the fact that Allison is very well read and a witty and engaging conversationalist! In short she The "attitude" person I do not know. PP Plus did I mention she was cute?

I know it's a long shot but..... Anyone have any beta on the East Wall route on Higher Cathedral?

Ah Jon I am on to you and Tim - This is really an post-graduate study to see how silly you can get people to act. I bet we have exceeded your wildest expectations and I know you will both graduate with honors and go on to be marketing masters!!

quote: Originally posted by richard noggin: The sport climbs are just too thin for cool sport moves. Don't you think there should be at least some trad only areas in Washington .You will not see sport climbers coming to the columns or the bend for sport test pieces. Even myself I think the drill should be left out of some areas and this is the one I would pick. The bend and the columns has real crack climbing, you don't just plug in gear and face climb. It will be a bummer if a new guide book comes out and I like the bridge being out (less people)Love it when the rattle snakes run everyone out of the crag (now thats ball'z climbing) With a post name like mine how much value can you put on my opinion You sir are one of the best here at cc.com! Funny how you see it that way as I LOVE crack climbing but think that basically the crack routes in the Tieton on average aren't that good! (originally wrote suck which was hyperbole) Not that there aren't good some routes but I have climbed most of the routes at Royal Columbs and to me the best ones are the bolted ones. I tried to think of better sport routes than Price (I meant at the same difficulty) and couldn't come up with a clearly superior route in WA. Honestly I couldn't find its equal. By the way thin = good! What would be bad is if every three feet there was another bolt route! But I don't think this is the case. Actually some of the routes there have pretty porr (originally wrote shitty pro for routes I assume were not placed onsight & onlead. eg: Stress Management would have been much cooler with a few more bolts. I think that guy is 5.10 too! PP [ 09-17-2002, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: Peter Puget ]

quote: Originally posted by richard noggin: The Royal columns and the bend suck for sport climbing ,It's like vertical slab. I climb a lot of sport but I wish they would not put sport climbs up there it's a stellar crack area . Don't be dis'in orange sunshine or Inca roads a little hard for the grade but classic none the less. The river is up for the rafters you can cross at the cable or 40 minute hike from the bend parking lot. Not trying to insite a flame PP just my opinion [/QB] When have I flamed anyone for honest opinions! Both the routes Andy mentions that are sport at the Royal Columns have been around for along time. Price is without a doubt a good climb and at least as steep as the average Smith route. Do you really think it is a shitty climb and if so, give me some better sport routes of the same grade in WA. As far as ratings go Yakima seems pretty fairly rated although those at Lava Point seem a little inconsistant.

Bored so here are few of my comments on Andy's recomendations: Inca Roads (classic 5.9 finger crack) I remember this as being a bit larger than fingers and only so so. The route to the left is a fun TR or lead. Orange Sunshine (.10b gently overhanging fingercrack) Sandy on top. Not really sure why people like this guy so much. Paul Maul (sustained .10c fingers) I Hated this one. Not really jamming at all as the crack has weird constrictions. Price of Complacency (.11b overhanging arete, sport) Stellar route! Excellent rock. Steep too! Morning After (.12a arete, sport, great finish) Lots of thin edging! Good route. The Bend: Salmon Song (.10a roof) Rock quality only so-so Pure Joy (.10c fingers, balance) Much harder lead than the rating would suggest. Off balance is right! Good route. Ambient Domain (.10c stemming) Hard to place pro on this guy. Crack a bit grubby. Maybe it is me but I wouldn't recomend this one. Backed off 10 years ago and did it a couple ago and hated the experience. I felt it was a much harder lead that Trag. Hip. Tragically Hip (.11b/c true arete liebacking, 1988 bolting style corrected in 2000 [i.e., I retrobolted it]) Retrobolt made this climb much more fun. The Cave (all sport): Some of the long routes here are great. My fav is the one that goes over the roof near the top. Lots of climbing in only a few feet. I bet in a few years they will be grease fests tho so go do them now. Rainbow Rocks (all sport): Black Celebration (.11a) OK crux near bottom. Short. Ice Cream Girls (.11d, exceptional) Best route I have done in the Tieton! One of the best sportos in WA. Lava Point (all sport): Great views! The routes are short. Honeycomb Buttress (all sport): Honeycombs (.11a, unique) Fun climb! As are most of the routes on this face Land Down Under (.11c, unique) Awkward. Can be climbed in the rain. Anaphylactic Shock (.11d/.12a, unique) Second(?) bolt was a desparate clip with groundfall potential if I remember correctly. Otherwise good route. Top gets wet in rain. Wildcat: Wildcat Crack (long .10c fingers) Can do this climb with little real jamming. Good pro. Colonnade (.11a/b, mixed, finger crack & bolts) If this is the route (trad bottom and bolted top to left of Wildcat)I am thinking of its. Bring thin stuff! Tieton

Thanks I already tried that board.

I must admit to as a youth both loving Dr. Who and climbing on a goldline. Of the two my memories of Dr. Who are the better. Tom Baker rules!

I went climbing with someone once and all they would talk about was how full of idiots this site was! Good thing PP was going incognito that day!

Did you go back and wrestle that beast (Index offwidth) into submission?

Did you go back and wrestle that beast (Index offwidth) into submission?

Did oyu ever go back and wrestle that route to submission? And what % of your body is now a big scab? Ouch! OW road rash is the worst!

Here you guys go: ]http://ringling.com/images/explore/132nd/gator/rm_gator_r2_c1.jpg[/img][/url] But as usual Dwayner is only close to being right this guy was the true here: NEW YORK"S OWN JON WEISS! PP [ 09-16-2002, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: Peter Puget ]

Lucky - Write all the local papers and columnists explaining the situation and how the police haven't been helpful, then tell everyone here who you wrote to and we will send emails too. Post similar stuff on related websites ie Mountaineers and NW Hikers. We should figure out who to call and start calling. Make youself visible and something will happen - being aggressive in the parking lot is a recipe for problems. [ 09-14-2002, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: Peter Puget ]

Why don't we all meet at the Seattle Center. Bring gifts,flowers and lots of luv! PS: I'll be the one with the memory book. Be sure to sing it before you leave! [ 09-12-2002, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Peter Puget ]

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Trask your post gives me something to think about while I am thinking of her! Right on brother. And remember when she is around All truly is sunny!

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There you are! Go to an Pyschiatrist. A real Dr. will do the trick.

Now Trask I am surprised at such crudeness coming from you. Certainly a man that submits his ass to a woman one moment and then the next writes such a crass post is quite conflicted! Therapy! It'll work wonders. PP

quote: Originally posted by Heywood Jablowme: How about how irritating. Yes! Irritating is right! She is so hot I can't get her off my mind! All day:in meetings eating lunch, chatting with by bud Dwayner late at night, feeding the cats, just before I drift off to sleep - she is there in my mind! So close and yet......

So true Mattp! You are a light shining in the wilderness.

Greg we are twins!!!!!!

Greg - Turn that frown upside down!!!!