Peter_Puget

I had to work well into the evening and couldn't make it. I bet it was a blast. PP

Fox News Reports: Leaked secret Democratic Senate Select Committee on Intelligence memo relates future timing of pre-war intelligence investigation to 2004 presidental election.

Praise Bob!

..don't let facts get in the way of your theories... Link

Aboslutely tru story: In 1979 I ate government surplus nuts and oatmeal and a bit of cheese as my main food sources during an extended climbing trip.

"THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA. Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause." Link The question is why is Erik falling for it?

There's more work to do! PP

Posts like this are simply BS. I think that Greg is just stirring up shit for sport and since I do not believe he is serious I believe this post is an embarassment to the board in general. More climbing please. PP

CAMERAS Yosemite various Okanogan-Wenatchee Natl. Forest webcams, including Mazama LOCAL CRAG SITES Index - Topos here but also lots of good Ca info Tieton Kevin Pogue's Site: includes guides to Spring Mtn and The Dikes, plus a synopsis of cragging in a wide radius from Walla Walla DISCUSSION BOARDS Supertopo - Yosemite Bigwalls & More Gripped - Canadian w/ lots of Squamish stuff Rock Climbing .com NW Hikers - has some climbing content Turns All Year - mostly skiing Summitpost GEAR Pro Mountain Sports - climber owned Seattle area shop Fish Gear OTHER Access Fund ASCA Dr. Topo

In the Squamish guide there is a picture showing the Grand Wall with (compared to today) little brush trees and moss growing on it. I was looking at an old issue of Mountain (63) and it had some pictures from the 70's of the Malemute and I was shocked how clean the cliff was. Have you seen picture of the Chief throughout the [ast century? If so, was there a burst of plant growth just recently?

I know. DFA should publish his world famous Chain Beta!

Get Beta

Ok another good day spent at work but this route in Leavenworth is on my mind. I don't know much about commitment in general but the route ( Committed ) is one gnarly lead. Who's tried it? On lead without preinspection? Full credit to TB! PP

Crowds & Power Ok, it's not a climb ing book but I picked it up while cleanng last night and realized what a great book it was. PP

at all locations?

Erik 90% chance of working but I am trying to get out and do something. If I can leave work early and zoom out to Index can I get a tr with you?

"My purpose is not to denigrate the impressive estimated 7.2 percent growth rate for the third quarter of 2003. It is, rather, to stress the obvious: we've had our hopes dashed in the past, and it remains to be seen whether this is just another one-hit wonder." Krugman Today It's a lot of work to always look on the dark side of life. PP

Only a little... Could be cold tho...Brrrrr

Index?...nah...Leavenworth.....Small World Crack ....hmmmm sweet!

Female Chain Gang

If I ingnore the essential meaness that is shown in all your posts, I agree!

Quick Link As far as unemployment: would you finfd it better to be unemployed ina shrinking or stagnant enviroment? Besides unemploymenty isn't so bad now and will get better.

Me!!! But it wasn't really an important piece just playing around after reading some article by Ken Nichols

J-B You left your newspaper at the coffee shop. J_B's Paper Oh yea, again I am sorry about the news that the economy grew at a 7.2% rate last quarter. Buck up I am sure a depression is right around the corner. PP

I have been busy at work and come back to find that I have lost interest in this thread but in response to JK’s question, I was starting to develop some thoughts relative to Dryads question of how risky behavior is received amongst climbers. The guys I mentioned did exhibit reckless behavior. I would also agree that soloing is not always as risky as perceived - Bachar while soloing a 5.9 slab in the Meadows is probably less likely to be involved in an accident than some party of newbies climbing Hermaphrodite Flake.