Peter_Puget

Seems like we are paying alot right now.

Would you mind taking a minute an explain this....

I was just kicking back enjoying this forgotten gem when I was struck by the stupid reference to the Pope in . The Pope has of course been in the news lately for this little speech. Anyway it's a good album despite some inane lyrics.

a famous CC.com sprayer of old? I just can't find that pic.

or Plamegate is starting to look like something else all together... Novak 9-13-06

5.8 d/e

Ya but you're still sexy Marylou. In fact i can't believe you are really that old. Happy Birthday.

Bill you’ve picked two of the most notoriously over rated 5.10as in the Valley. In some guides Peruvian Flake is rated 5.9.

The Boss rocks? Hendrix LA Forum 4-25-70 rocks! Blind Faith 1969 Santa Barbara rocks! The "Boss" poses.

CBS I have used a lot of tape over the years. Via a variety of techniques. Some quite similar if not identical to this one. I am just letting him know my preferences. I don't belive there is "one" right way to tape. If I asked the question I would be interested in a variety of opinions.

Well I aint buying the reuse theory......not saying you can't, just that there are better options avaible.

CBS - From my perspective this system is bulky, doesn't protect fingers and a reused 'glove' seems likely not to be very stable.

Yalie eh...they're the best - spending $$$ to live in a slum. No need to upgrade the living quarters. By the way congrats on the marriage...if you picked the right one you're life won'tchange a bit. At least unless you want it too

they're even worse at Brown.....

More tired, overused rhetoric from a Kool-aid drinking DittoHead. AH name calling. What more could I expect? What could be a better example of a well worn cliché than a reference to Wal Mart? I linked to data. You decided to respond by making an unsupported claim that there are comparatively large numbers of discouraged workers rendering the linked data misleading. Funny because the data supporting or contradicting your assertion is available. In your next post rather than supporting your claim you throw in some unrelated link to the Detroit Free Press. If you scratch a liberal you will often find fear combined with a sense of entitlement revealing a contempt for the little people and anyone more successful than they are.

Sounds like you must have nightmares of saying "How may I help you." Your fear is sad but it and your contempt for other's jobs reveals the true motivation of "liberals."

I'd prefer your sister........

4.7!

I was just making sure the distiction was clear.

The VII is a add on of the traditional system. There is certainly a clear logical discontinuity between 1-6 and 7. In fact when I first started climbing I can't recall even seeing a grade VII. The definition of the Alaska grades is down below:

Just to be clear a "commitment" grade (eg Alaska grade) is different from the traditional grade scale. (ie a grade VI ala' Half Dome)

Smoke and mirrors…Dodge and weave… mantras for modern debate! I wonder how seriously I am to take anything you write. For, example it seems quite clear that in a discussion regarding “Plamegate” Wilson’s report and its merits are important considerations. You seemed to agree a post or two above when after your initial recitation of your mantra you wrote: HELLO! Jay, consider this: Nobody is saying that Wilson was incorrect. I merely asked that you state clearly the assertion he was debunking and how he debunked it. Earlier in this thread you wrote: Wilson did pretty much debunk the Niger Uranium story and,…. For some reason I cannot discern when I ask for a simple explanation on how Wilson’s debunked of Bush’s assertion you suggest I am “blowing smoke”. I am not “dodging & weaving” or “blowing smoke.” I am just chasing after a moving goalpost. Byu the way it does seem that you are ready to toss Wilson overboard regarding how accurate his report was. So let's forget Wilson and why don't you just layout the facts that support your contention that Bush's assertion was incorrect. Wasn't the assertion something like: “The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa .” Hey maybe it was exactly like that!

MAtt - Is everyone who disagrees with you a "dodge and weaver"? Perhaps we are simply confused as to what you are actually claiming. See the Bold section in the quote above. In the first paragraph you seem to say that Wilson claimed that there never was an attempt at a purchase. In the second that there no simply no purchase. Please be consistent. Again if you are so convinced Wilson proved something, just clearly state what Bush asserted and how Wilson debunked it. state the facts clearly and with out reference to other issues. Why do you believe the way you do.

Mattp - I remaqined convinced you are incorrect in your assertion thatWilson debunked anything. Please layout the facts (simply) regarding what Bush asserted and how Wilson debunkned the claim. Please stick the issue.

Has been for along time RumR...at least in a narrow way.