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It starts on Kloset Klimb and finishes at the anchors on Rurp Riot. I thought you thought it WAS Rurp Riot. Which should be called Baby Angle Bash. there's a crack that would still be rurp sized if it had been bolted, beat out piece of shit now, takes fingertips and tricams and tied off angles.

no, it traverses across a sloping rail on an overhanging wall to the top of that climb.

Those suckers are always breaking down. Mine won't pass emissions. Better one that doesn't pass emissions than one that does, and is constantly doing it.

Nice helmet on the spotter!

You need better glasses, old man.

paraffin and dryer lint

if he had any manners it would be the reacharound

Yes, but I've had lots of practice. YEARS of firestartiung experience. And I have taken 4 (count 'em) NFLSe (National Firestarting Leadership School (ewe)) courses. And I wear a sheepskin vest. And I've chopped more bolts than you will ever place. So get out your measuring tape but you'll need a frickin' odometer to measure mine.

Tell you what - let's do this test, which is more reflective of real life conditions. You and I will do an unequipped bivi somewhere. No tents, stoves or sleeping bags. Only normal day-trip winter climbing clothing and gear (pack, screws, ice tools etc). You will get a foam pad. Hell, you can bring a Thermarest if you want. I will get a fire. You can't come anywhere near my fire and I can't come anywhere near your foam pad. We will see who is warmer through the night.

Stud Farm

There are plenty of other ways to keep victim warm. The claim here is that supposedly "even with a fire, you can't keep someone warm without a foam pad", which is false.

That is absolute BS, CBS.

... a lighter and some firestarter. Most places in the PNW you can make a pretty good raging fire in the subalpine or below and that will keep you a lot warmer than a thin puffy jacket and foam pad will. Also it's lighter and you can smoke or torch your TP or melt ice out of ice screws with it too. I usually carry a few shake and heat pads too. Pretty much never a stove unless planning to bivi, maybe not even then.

pfff, adept at steep hard crimps and one handed goat milking. how rounded does one need to be? What is the Other hand doing

Old Style made cams??!!

Or perhaps some people prefer posting in a forum where the moderators are less likely to, say, delete the whole thread if it is revealed that one of those selfsame moderators illegally power drills in designated wilderness areas....

There are things you know you don't know, and there are other things that you are too clueless to know that you don't know. These are the Rumsfield "unknown unknowns" and its when they show up that you get into deep shit. Remember "it is the wise man who knows he is a fool."

Walrus - narwhal - unicorn - elephant --> convergent evolution

that's gonna be someones new avatar image faster than you can say Hotel Chain

Good question this is. Ponder it we must

These words remain true Within even the greatest climbers the suck still dwells.

Dude, that was Heinous Cling.

Chain Reaction is SUCH a bolted crack

... Dwayner climbing 5.13? Definitely an urban legen or else Kurt would have to pay up.