Dru

You guys should definitely come up and see Ben H in Van BC, the last time he was here someone threw a whole POUND of bud onstage during "burn one down".

Today's list includes the DK's, Mos Def, Sun Ra, Bad Religion, NOFX, Peter Brotzmann/Last Exit, Loop Guru, Horace Andy and the Mermen. Sorry pope, no Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Alanis, Tea Party, Tragically Hip etc. I am down with Stompin' Tom and Blood, Sweat and Tears, though.

Hey Capt. Caveman, ya hear that? Girl Scouts? That's almost as good as the Sheclimbs Festival for a chance to get lucky

OOOH, good suggestion Viktor. Givler's Crack instead of Skaha. Isn't that like suggesting standing in line to buy a video instead of standing in line to see a movie? [i'm not dissing you V. - much ]

Hey, that was mine! I can even identify it - it has an eagle on one side, and a president's head on the other. Actually I am just waiting for Erik to announce that he lost his virginity in the parking lot and ask anyone who found it to return it...

No those inflatable chicks are too high maintenance.

Hey Caveman - what about David Lee Roth - the man solos in the Sierras afterall just like peter croft In terms of Music Tastes I will vote today for The Residents, Bill Laswell, RL Burnside, Massive Attack, Neil Young, Devo, Kid Koala, Public Enemy, RZA, Coltrane, Tom Waits, Banco de Gaia and Shirley Bassey. My opinions tomorrow may change drastically. [This message has been edited by Dru (edited 05-09-2001).]

Skaha, god forbid. Six hundred versions of exactly the same route. (...and then there's PhS ) yes there is a climbers festival on the Victoria Day long weekend. expect it to be long on socializing and short on climbing.

Or you could get back to the point of soling anyways and just free solo - aside from shoes and a chalkbag, maybe a rap line, you don't really need much other gear

Also at Squamish you can link up the first two pitches of the Smoke Bluff Connection with the recently-recleaned Sparky's Crack for a 2-3 pitch (depending if you link the first two or not)5.8 And there is always the reliable Merci Me! If you have a big 4x4 you should also check out the west buttress of the south peak of the Old Settler - about 10 -12 pitches of low 5th class in a great alpine setting. For beta see www.bivouac.com or the upcoming Alpine Select guide from Elaho Publishing (plug). Lots more good alpine moderates in SW BC in that.

Captain there is only one Verm approved mate for climbers and that is the one that wears fleece and says "Baaaa!"

quote: Originally posted by erik: dru, how did your project come? did she slap you again or did yout get to first base! Squealing and squeezing her soft thighs together on my head....

Something I want to see MORE of in the new guidebook is more of that classic Kramar-speak like "These strange critters have been found to hunker down in nooks and crannies" describing bats and owls, I think?

Banana Peel on the Apron, Squamish Beckey Route on Liberty Bell Brogan Spire stuff at Smith. (I didn't think the W. ridge of N. twin sister was as hard as 5.5 - more like class 3-4??)

Put Classic Crack back to 5.8 too!!!! It's way easier than Canary.

Viktor, you should go back to your older skull graphic,(white guidebook) it is better than the new one. And maybe spread the stars around a bit to Icicle routes put up by people other than yourself? Are you the same Vic Kramar that put up all those routes in Kelowna in the early 80's? I vote for including all those crags like the Strayhorn and Non-wall too, they're not in the Beckey guide and there is no beta on them AT ALL. Even just a vague line and a grade?

All right silly mofos I take 4 days of ffrom posting to work (no... a climbing project) and a flaming controversy erupts behind my back? It seems you have forgotten the CARVED IN STONE PRINCIPLES OF BOOTY which is that "When Gear Is Abandoned It Becomes The Property Of Whomsoever Finds It And Successfully Removes It". If I leave a rope fixed to my high point on a wall - it is not abandoned. I can and will return for it.You take it, you steal it. If I leave a rope stuck on rappel because I am unable to dislodge it - it becomes abandoned when I give up retrieval efforts. It belongs to whoever is able to successfully retrieve it. You take it, it's yours. If I leave a rope sitting in the parking lot and drive away- (and I have left even stupider things behind) - then technically it is abandoned. I should have NO EXPECTATION I will ever see it again. If someone takes pity on poor forgetful me and gives it back they earn a big reward from me (NOT JUST ONE BEER!!!!!). But if they keep the rope - I learn my lesson the hard way. I won't forget that rope next time. In the last case it is the DECISION OF THE FINDER whether to keep or return the rope. Because it is THEIR PROPERTY when they find it. Just like when you find beer bottlesin the dumpster they become your property and you get to keep the deposit money...! You don't give that money back to whoever bought the beer and say "Here this is yours!"

Waaa hoo! That Bachar Cracker of the Desert AKA Pig Pen, Kicks Ass! You should do that Hobbit Hole Offwidth too. Oh yeah and Grit Roof with a big hole in the ass of your Prana Mojaves.

Kevin McLane's "SW BC Select" alpine guide will be out in about 3 weeks with up-to-date road access beta for Depot Creek. Or you can check www.bivouac.com for Depot Creek/ Mount Redoubt access.

All the stories posted so far pale in comparison to the fall this girl took. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=004299402432522&rtmo=0xRNb0Kq&atmo=rrr rrrrq&pg=/et/01/5/4/npara04.html [This message has been edited by Dru (edited 05-04-2001).]

You're gonna have to do more than spell good to get me in a 2-person sleeping bag (unles you're a girl)

Well, hell, if ED VEISTURS does it it MUST be OK. After all EDDIE was in VERTICAL LAME-IT and he played HIMSELF!!!! None of that STUNT DOUBLE stuff for THE MAN!!! [This message has been edited by Dru (edited 05-04-2001).]

I don't think that photo was taken near Squamish. The plant there would look like Devil's Club. That photo (judging by the length of Bigfoot's hair) was taken in the Nelson region, the last refuge of the endangered American Vietnam draft-dodger. Or maybe this whole statement is a smokescreen just to obscure the issue?

ARRRRGH!!! I can't stand it anymore! "Etiquette" is the correct spelling!!!! You guyts shud lurn to spel moar gud! Yur speling sukks!

quote: Originally posted by ScottP: I wear a pair of 20 year old Raichle Montagna's under a pair of Yeti SuperGaitors. My feet stay warm and dry but for some sweat now and then.[/b] just think, if you had plastic boots you wouldn't have to wear supergaitors to keep your feet dry