EddieE

Yeah, no kidding. Hey Will, at least you managed to hide your stuffed animal collection from the camera. Is that a ruffled pillow cover I see back there?

New things I like: - anything made of Schoeller - Koflach plastic boots - Orchard Street Brewery Old things I still like: - Petzl Ecrin Roc helmets - CM Quasars - Pabst Blue Ribbon

Ditto with the pea gravel vs. pad. Also, try not to stick your arm out unless you want a mangled wrist / elbow / shoulder. If you peel off backwards, try to turn so you land on your side (if you can't land feet first) and watch your head. It works for me. I fall a lot.

In chronological order: - soloed the wall of my crib...promptly fell out. Learning how to rappell was still a few years away. - spent a lotta years climbing roofs, trees, etc. - dad would take us out car camping lots. - went on an overnight camping trip in the Olympics. I wore all cotton clothes and had everything hanging off my Eddie Bauer campus pack. Got cold, wet, and hungry but the bug bit. - started hanging out with other people who were getting into climbing. spent friday nights drinking beer and watching climbing porn. spent weekday afternoons hanging out at a local practice rock. - I took a mountaineering course (shaped my climbing philosophy) and interned with a guide service where I worked with a local climbing hardman (learned a few tricks). - spring break trip to Josh, winter break trips to Banff. A couple of other climbing trips here and there, and I end up here...at cc.com.

I'm there.

Use your imagination. Maybe you should go back to work desk jockey.

mmm hmmm...more insightful comments from spew-lard. You know, there's another climber who posts here with whom you might make a good team...if you don't get into too many arguments about who can piss the furthest. Happy belated b-day Lisa, Can't wait for the shin-dig. - E [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 08-02-2001).]

Must be tough working those redpoints with that big chip on your shoulder there, champ. Shit...talk about having nothing insightful to say...

Yeah, you're right. Climbing has nothing to do with drinking beer, telling stories (true or not) and meeting other climbers. If you think its a bad idea...don't go. [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 08-02-2001).]

50-100 people? Geez, should we get a band? ...just joking! [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 08-01-2001).]

Sounds fun...I'm in.

Kurt Russell in "Big Trouble in Little China"? I've been know to say it, but am hardly a PNW climbing hardman [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 08-01-2001).]

Hmmm...that might be a better option. I'm all for having a shindig where The Man won't be around to shut us down.

"The mountains don't care..." Told to me by my mentor to explain why you need to have your shite together before you head out. Examples: "The mountains don't care that you forgot your stove pump and now cannot melt water." "T.M.D.C. that you ran out of daylight and can't find the descent." "T.M.D.C. that you're a nice guy...it'll still throw rocks, ice and avalanches at you."

I got a chance to play around with these at Second Ascent yesterday, and they seem like a sweet set-up. Anyone using them?

At the RMI rest stops, they'll take an inventory of who needs to go down...if there's enough they'll send a rope team down with a guide to Muir. If it's just one or two people, it makes more sense to leave them in a safe spot than waste a guide for one person, sacrificing a higher guide:client ratio for the rest of the group. They just get to go back to sleep...there's not much that can happen to them.

"There are only three sports - mountain climbing, bullfighting, and motor racing - all the rest being games." - Ernest Hemingway I dunno if that means anything to anyone, but I thought I'd just throw it in - E

Sounds good, Beck. Count me in.

good suggestions ya'll Add the right leaning crack to the left of BBQ the Pope (look out for the flaring part at the top) and if you decide to lead BBQ the Pope without a stick clip, remember: deep breaths. The climb to the right of Five Gallon Buckets: Light on the Path (5.9) is good if you see it open. You can also climb two 5.8 cracks to get to the start of the bolt ladder for Monkey Face, but the rope drag sucks. Don't miss the cool rappel from the top Super Slab is a great warm-up, too. Definitely stay at Grasslands (the free camping spot) and check out the Tex-Mex/Pizza place on the highway north of Madras. And, yeah, don't miss the ice cream! Have a great trip! [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 07-30-2001).]

Regardless of the direction which climbing is taking, there must remain those who advocate for the environment. Arguments against bolting will wear a number of different hats, whether its ethics, tradition or preserving the rock, but if any of them can make Joe Climber think twice about rapping down an established (or even unestablished) route with his Hilti, they still have their place. You can't ignore trends in society or of competing user groups, but you don't necessarily need to agree with them either. The debate continues.

"Shouldn't care for the enviroment exist outside of our climbing experience?" Caring for the environment is an INHERENT part of our climbing experience...that's why we go out there to begin with. Adding more hardware on rock, simply because it's more popular nowadays, is not a good reason to do so. Allowing thoughtless retro-bolting and bolting lines that can be cleanly protected is comparable to laying down cement on your favorite trail. The ethics that will let us maintain our self-regulation are to keep impact to a minimum - and whether thats an old idea or a new one is neither here nor there.

attaway dwayner...you tell 'em.

I just saw "Yellow Snow Ale" at the store yesterday.

I'm putting my votes in for: Cold Cock, Goat's Breath, Moose Drool, and my sentimental favorite - Monkey Face Porter

It sounds like I missed out on the fun stuff. I gotta stick around longer next time.