CascadeClimber Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 Is anyone else using these? I'm having a problem that I hope is operator error: With the leashes adjusted for proper support, the strap to the clipper is so short that I have difficulty grabbing it with a gloved hand. It seems like maybe the bracket attachment location on the shaft of the tool is too close to the grip by about an inch? Quote
iain Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 nice thread title. lured me right in to see some robot snakes. Quote
Lambone Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 I adjust my android wrist loops about as short/close as possible to the thumb clip. I find it easier to use, cause it doesn't flop around so much... Quote
CascadeClimber Posted January 15, 2003 Author Posted January 15, 2003 I have 3/4" left to shorten them before they hit the bar tack. But if I take them down that far the buckle doesn't reach far enough into the crook of my index finger and thumb so that I can grab it. The attachment location on the Viper isn't adjustable- there are fixed holes in the shaft where the male part of the buckle attaches with bolts. Quote
wdietsch Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 I'm having a problem that I hope is operator error: With the leashes adjusted for proper support, the strap to the clipper is so short that I have difficulty grabbing it with a gloved hand. It seems like maybe the bracket attachment location on the shaft of the tool is too close to the grip by about an inch? what? ..... you mean you didn't do Drury Falls "leashless" !! .... what's up with that? ...... well shiitt .... that changes everything .... Quote
CascadeClimber Posted January 15, 2003 Author Posted January 15, 2003 what? ..... you mean you didn't do Drury Falls "leashless" !! .... what's up with that? ...... well shiitt .... that changes everything .... Shhhhh, don't tell anyone, but we also used ropes, screws, rock gear, and we even bivied. We didn't even swim nekkid across the Wenatchee or wear blue jeans up the route either! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 I heard Jim Nelson climbed Index NF winter in blue jeans Quote
Rainier_Wolfscastle Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 I could see where that would be annoying. Are these tools seconds or something? I can't imagine BD would have designed the leash this way. How about getting the upper part of a standard Andriod leash and use that instead. You will be able move the clip up and down as you please. Of course, it's not quite as tidy as the Viper Andriod leash setup, but whatever works. Quote
daler Posted January 15, 2003 Posted January 15, 2003 I have not had this problem. sounds like you might have your leashes adjusted to short overall. the leash should be adjusted so that during your swing no tension is on it. then once its in the ice you can relax your grip and let the leash do the work. this will put your pinky near the bottom of the spike. explain more if that doesn't help! dale Quote
CascadeClimber Posted January 15, 2003 Author Posted January 15, 2003 It's usually pretty clear to me when they aren't adjusted correctly, in either direction. My hands and wrists are small (shut up!) and I wear very thin gloves when leading, so maybe that has something to do with it. As it is, I've left them just a touch too long for leading, but when wearing heavier gloves the length is about right, but I sometimes have a problem grabbing the buckle. Overall I think they are great. I haven't gotten used to the clink-clink sound they make, though. Quote
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