mplutodh1 Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Aside from the schools I mentioned below - are there other winter expedition style skills schools/courses in the area? I originally had planned to look into taking an AIARE Level 1 Avy course and a separate crevasse rescue class but I'm wondering if I'd enjoy a winter school more... it'd be a completely different experience and probably one that would prepare me well for a lot of what the mountains in the Northwest could throw my way weather and conditions wise. Schools I'm aware of: - RMI - Winter Expedition Skills $1930 (Includes summit attempt on Rainier) - Mountain Madness - Denali Prep $975 (no summit attempt) - IMG - Winter Ascent Seminar $1750 (Includes summit attempt on Rainier) - Alpine Ascents - Denali Prep $2000 (maybe summit attempt on Rainier) - NW Mountain School - Denali Prep $1440-2370 If anyone has experience with any of the above I'd also love to hear more about them. Thanks in advance! Quote
DPS Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Take a look at Pro Ski and Guiding. They may be able to do a custom itinerary. Ask for Chris Simmons, a great guy, patient teacher, fully IFMGA certified, AIRE 3 instructor. http://climbskirun.blogspot.com/p/guiding_17.html Quote
genepires Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 It depends on where your skills are now and what your goals are. A denali prep course is a prep for denali. The skills you learn on a denali prep course may not be functional for your cascade goals. your money may be better spent on a solid summer mountaineering skill course if that is lacking for you. Quote
mplutodh1 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I've climbed Baker (with Peregrine) and Rainier(with AAI) and have years of the standard backpacking experience. I understand the Denali Prep course is targeted at Denali - however I would guess many of the skills learned there can translate to the cascades. From a goals perspective - my bucket list includes finishing the WA volcanoes, from there - more in the North Cascades (Shuksan, Eldorado, etc) as well as the Olympics. Part of why I'm looking for the winter is timing; summers are busy and with plans to climb Adams and likely another climb of Rainier already on the list for the summer I'm not sure I can swing a week or two in a school. Have to be careful where I schedule vacation. Edited September 14, 2011 by mplutodh1 Quote
genepires Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 If you are looking to climb cascades in spring and winter, you should take a avi course and learn to backcountry ski. Maybe a better use of your $2000 is to buy good ski setup and a couple ski lessons at a local hill if you are not a good skier. While I can't speak for all guiding outfits, but I think that a course for avi control is going to be superior to a avi section in a winter mtneering course. If you are looking for summer climbing skills in a winter time training session, I do not think you will find it. They are completely different situation and might as well be in different continents. The crossover is minimal and not a efficient use of your money. Now if you got lots of extra cash floating around........... Are your rock climbing skills good enough? Maybe a couple days rock climbing with a guide would do you more good. Same with ice climbing. Based on your goals, basic competency with rock and ice is so much more important than winter climbing skills. Quote
EastCoastBastard Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 What about a NOLS mountaineering course in the cascades - you'd learn heaps about glacier travel, avalanches, planning, etc... and you'd be out in the field practicing what you've just learned. Fantastic experience. Quote
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