Lightweight short technical ice axe w/hammer?

[Wallstein]

I'm looking for the best lightweight short ice axe/tool with a hammer for alpine rockclimbing . The best thing I can find is the Simond Fox Carving axe

 

The only problem with the Simond is it lacks a hammer, which is mandatory in places like Patagonia (and you can't buy them in the US). I have a Simond super fox rock currently which is sweet for glacier travel and then pounding in pins but it would be pretty grim to climb anything steeper with it.

 

I've used the BD venom a bunch and am happy with the way it performs but I'd really like something a fair bit lighter. Anyone one know of a tool/axe that is shaped and featured like a BD Venom but way lighter?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[t_rutl]

Petzl Aztarex?

 

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Petzl-Aztarex-Ice-Tool/PTZ0092M.html

 

[Wallstein]

The Petzl Aztarex are barely lighter than the Venom. 530g vs 500g.

 

I'm looking for something around 400g or lighter.

[layton]

I have the simond fox you mentioned with a hammer. got it 10 years ago, maybe they still have some laying around the factory? best damn hammer/ice tool ever. could you forge a hammer on?

[Dane]

Grivel Evo hammer is 500g in a 48cm.

[wdietsch]

The Petzl Aztarex are barely lighter than the Venom. 530g vs 500g.

 

I'm looking for something around 400g or lighter.

 

hack 5~10 cm off the end of it, set it up in a drill press and have at it .... I'm sure Dane could do a nice job

[Jens]

Black Troisieme by Grivel, Marteau Fox by Simond, P'tit Loop by Charlet (I think they make a hammer and an adze

[wdietsch]

Black Troisieme by Grivel, Marteau Fox by Simond, P'tit Loop by Charlet (I think they make a hammer and an adze

 

all great choices .. if you can find someone willing to part with one

[Wallstein]

Dane, could you weld a hammer on this??

 

 

Simond Fox Carving = 290grams 43cm

[Dane]

sure if the head is steel...est weight would be 350/400g And something like $75 if I have to supply the hammer.

[Wallstein]

Got my modified Simond Fox Carving tool back from Dane!

 

Awesome!

 

It comes in somewhere around 375g. Which is about the same as the older Simond Fox (that is hard to find). The Carving will be a bit nicer for actually climbing alpine ice with its curved shaft. Also nice for high dagger. It does kinda feel like a toy ice tool.... I wonder how long its going to last.