Alpinfox Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 I believe it is a kong adjustable daisy. Can someone tell/show me how it works? Anyone used one? Do they work well? Advantages/limitations over other gear? Quote
G-spotter Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 it's not exactly an adjustable daisy but if you clip an oval through the top hole and thread the other holes with cord like you would thread an adjustable fifi, it works like one except you can clip it (unlike a fifi) Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 14, 2010 Author Posted July 14, 2010 Thanks! So I think this is how it works: Do you know what it is called? Quote
wdietsch Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 Thanks! So I think this is how it works: Do you know what it is called? looks like it is called "Slyde" Quote
JosephH Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 It's both an adjustable leash and a shock absorber; more the former than the latter. Quote
G-spotter Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 Mr Fox, if you compare the pic wdeitsch linked to the one where you have it threaded, it looks like you may have yours threaded backwards? Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 14, 2010 Author Posted July 14, 2010 Mr Fox, if you compare the pic wdeitsch linked to the one where you have it threaded, it looks like you may have yours threaded backwards? Yeah, I have mine rigged "incorrectly" according to wdietsch's pic. They way I have it rigged, it acts like an autolocking munter. Apparently Kong recommends using this device with a 9mm dynamic rope. In my pic I'm using ~5mm cord. I tried rigging it the "proper" way with my 5mm cord and a slightly misdirected pull results in the hitch slipping to the end of the rope. The way I have it rigged it locks down much better (with the small cord anyway) but is a little more tricky to extend. Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 14, 2010 Author Posted July 14, 2010 Interesting that, as JosephH says, the Slyde can be used as a load-limiting device. Google search revealed this diagram from an accident report involving someone using the slyde in a load-limiting self-belay anchor setup: Note that THE ACCIDENT resulted not from a problem with the Kong Slyde, but from the use of a toothed ascender device (Petzl Croll) to connect the lead climber/caver to the lead rope (obvious no-no). The climber was also leading on a static rope. Despite the fact that the description comes from an accident report, it seems to be a clever rig for limiting forces on rope solo leads. Rope diameter and sheath "slipperiness" are obviously going to be very important variables in determining at what force the device slips. The Kong website doesn't have much in the way of technical info about the device. Quote
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