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If you take the rivet out of the quark ergo (or quark?) head you can take it off and put it on the Nomic shaft. You just need to be able to find and put on a strong enough rivet. Stephen Koch did this a few years ago, it was a pretty sweet set up.

 

Your setup looks much more convenient though.

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Several ways to do it. Milling a Quark hammer and Nomic pic to mate on teh bolts is the right way to do it imo.

 

nomic_mod_hammer_n_pick.jpg

 

Look here for a drawing.

http://www.ascent-design.com/projects/other_ice_hammers.html

 

I cut and welded a Quark hammer to a Nomic pick...as there is pleanty of room. But it will fail with use and is expensive.

 

I suspect the most expensive is pull the head as Kock did and replace it with a Quark head. But I don't see the advantage over modifing the Quark shaft instead. And the disadvantages imo of the Quark mixed picks.

 

The answer many have decided on is to carry an alpine/wall hammer as a third tool for pounding pins. Also donesn't change the balance of the Nomic. That may be the easiest and least expensive answer.

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Funny, I talked at length to the Petzl folks just before the last show this winter. They mentioned there was no desire by Petzl to build a hammer for the Nomic. Could be wrong of course.

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I caught my tidbit of info while at the show in SLC. Although Petzl did not have one for display which does make me speculative. It would seem simple for them to do so (especially if end users can make it happen in their garage) and something that makes sense given the application that these tools are seeing. If Petzl has no desire to do this then wtf are they thinking? One could only hope that its not a nomic hammer but an updated quark up their sleeve that blends the best of both worlds.

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Several ways to do it. Milling a Quark hammer and Nomic pic to mate on teh bolts is the right way to do it imo.

 

nomic_mod_hammer_n_pick.jpg

 

Look here for a drawing.

http://www.ascent-design.com/projects/other_ice_hammers.html

 

I cut and welded a Quark hammer to a Nomic pick...as there is pleanty of room. But it will fail with use and is expensive.

 

I suspect the most expensive is pull the head as Kock did and replace it with a Quark head. But I don't see the advantage over modifing the Quark shaft instead. And the disadvantages imo of the Quark mixed picks.

 

The answer many have decided on is to carry an alpine/wall hammer as a third tool for pounding pins. Also donesn't change the balance of the Nomic. That may be the easiest and least expensive answer.

 

By the way, this is f@#king sweet!

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Rumor has it that Petzl will be making a hammer version of the Nomic in the near future. I'll hold my breath.

 

I heard that too!

 

Yeah... only BD is making it and it's called "cobra" :laf:

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Rumor has it that Petzl will be making a hammer version of the Nomic in the near future. I'll hold my breath.

 

I heard that too!

 

Yeah... only BD is making it and it's called "cobra" :laf:

 

Petzl never seems to make the simple mods that would improve their tools, i.e., still no upper grip on the Petzl Quark.

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