billcoe Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Never inject anything into your veins. Ever. Sure it's better but your margin for error is drastically reduced. If you snort it and do too much, you normally just throw up. Inject it and you're screwed. Theres many other health issues as well. Smoking Cocaine (Crack or freebasing) is too addictive, pass on that as well. I never had any real desire to expand the roster beyond caffeine and alcohol - and wound up puking every time I chewed or smoked a cigar (about twice, each) - so even though I'm in favor of legalizing everything, this discussion is kind of academic to me on a personal level. They way I see it - an uptick in the addiction rate, while regrettable, is a less bad option than all of the harmful and costly byproducts of prohibition. I also can't help but believe that what mentally competent adults choose to do to their own bodies is their own business, and should never be criminalized. Having said all that - I couldn't help but wonder how people who intend to use heroin, meth, etc on a recreational basis go about evaluating their capacity to do so without getting hooked, ruining their lives, and dragging everyone they love through a multi-stage nightmare. I believe you when you say that there are people who can do so, and they are probably much more numerous than strict non-users like myself would believe - but to an outsider like me it seems like people who have a desire to try meth or heroin on a recreational basis might (on average) score fairly low on the impulse-control and ability-to-evaluate-risk-rationally scales. It just kind of makes me wonder how many folks have embarked on a plan to use these intensely addictive drugs have had things go badly awry? What have you seen? Have you ever overheard someone hashing out (no pun intended) a plan to try something and found yourself shaking your head and thinking "This guy's not cut out for that stuff, and I think he's about to make a terrible mistake?" First, I'd like to replace the word "BETTER" with the words "more effective". The truth is Jayb, other than speaking from personal opinion, I've known many, many people who got into all kinds of drugs. Very few got F*ed by them, however, I have seen that happen several times. I know that for some people, smoking crack even once can addict them. I stayed away from Crack due to others experience and knowledge on this. I never knew anyone have that happen after casual use with heroin, however, I cannot say that it wouldn't ever occur. For me, what I learned, is that my body operates best without all that shit. It's interesting to try it all and see what happens (for me), but at the end of the day, there is no real benifit or overiding joy that you get and stays with your like when you are climbing. So I leave it all alone due to the risk-reward issues. But that wasn't the question. Quote
kevbone Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 No you stop ;-) I am not the one who thinks is stupid...... I think it is an intesting topic and make good conversation. Quote
Hendershot Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Damn straight it's a good topic. Although there are several criteria which would change the list completely. Quote
kevbone Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 I have found that out of all the drugs I tried in my adolescence that nicotine was and is the most addictive. I smoked a pack a day for about 5 years. One day I woke up and had trouble breathing. I made a decision that morning to never smoke cigarettes again. That was 12 years ago. It took about a full year for the cravings to go away completely. The first week was the hardest. Quote
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