Spencer Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Why is it the Park pass you buy at Mt Rainier "toll booth" is good for a full year FROM the day you buy it, however the Climbing pass is only good for the year you buy it? I know I look like a cheap %$#%^ but it just occurred to me that this doesn't make much sense. Quote
Stefan Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Why is it the Park pass you buy at Mt Rainier "toll booth" is good for a full year FROM the day you buy it, however the Climbing pass is only good for the year you buy it? I know I look like a cheap %$#%^ but it just occurred to me that this doesn't make much sense. Don't forget. The NW trailhead park pass is also good for one full year FROM the month you buy it. Quote
Joe_Poulton Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 That's why I climb the other mountains more than Rainier... Quote
sobo Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Don't forget. The NW trailhead park pass is also good for one full year FROM the month you buy it. Peeps still buy those things? Quote
Dannible Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Don't forget. The NW trailhead park pass is also good for one full year FROM the month you buy it. Peeps still buy those things? Do you have any idea just how serious going to the mountains without the proper permits is? Quote
Fairweather Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Don't forget. The NW trailhead park pass is also good for one full year FROM the month you buy it. Peeps still buy those things? Do you have any idea just how serious going to the mountains without the proper permits is? Reminds me of that scene in Into the Wild where he is told he'll have to wait twelve years for a permit to float the Colorado--or pay a concessionaire $2,000. But seriously; I think the climbing permit system at MRNP is valid and used for the benefit of climbers via waste removal, standby help, recource info, etc. While I refuse to pay for an extortionist permit at St Helens or Adams--and have real problems with the USFS trail-park jobs program--I think the MRNP permit is a good deal. Quote
sobo Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 I don't have any trouble paying for the NP entrance/climbing permits. It's the NW Forest trailhead parking pass that chaps my butt. A "demonstration" program begun in 1996 that has shown its (un)worthiness, was not voted upon by the users (that's us, the public), and has continued to be re-authorized by tagging on to omnibus spending bills by an idiot Senator who has not one acre of Forest Service land in his district. Quote
Dannible Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 Funny you should bring up that movie, I just watched it last night. I agree that Rainier climbing permits are legit; without them there would be a lot more people who shouldn't be up there trying to just go for it, and they help support the climbing rangers who are good about hooking up info on conditions. NW trailhead passes are more of something that taxes should already cover IMO. That said I do have a one year pass around somewhere. Quote
godskid5 Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 It's the NW Forest trailhead parking pass that chaps my butt. where does the money from the nw forest parking pass and the sno park passes go? obviously not to plowing anything in sw washington during winter! discontinued plowing i wouldnt mind paying so much, if i could see some benefit. Quote
Fairweather Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 ...and if USFS was actually maintaining the roads instead of letting them fall into such disrepair that they can send invitations the local enviros to attend obscure and inconvenient "public hearings" that determine a gate needs to go up ten or 20 miles back. Quote
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