olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 its the evil doers who poison the pot. otherwise we could all walk around without these damn fig leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Nope. Just recognize that if you want to achieve something good, help others, etc that these may obstacles that you have to overcome. Anyone who works in fundraising for charities, for example, probably recognizes the role that vanity, flattery, egotism, etc play in motivating people to participate in or donate to causes that are self-evidently worthwhile (in addition to the role that good and noble sentiments play). I don't think that folks who incorporate these realities into their approach to raising money or support for good causes are necessarily cynical or defeatist for doing so. so arm yourself to fight fire with fire, or nukes if necessary. its true that you aren't going to beat rove, for instance, by "out nicing" him. "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It will only frustrate you and annoy the pig." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 i wouldn't try to teach karl to sing. i can't sing myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Nope. Just recognize that if you want to achieve something good, help others, etc that these may obstacles that you have to overcome. Anyone who works in fundraising for charities, for example, probably recognizes the role that vanity, flattery, egotism, etc play in motivating people to participate in or donate to causes that are self-evidently worthwhile (in addition to the role that good and noble sentiments play). I don't think that folks who incorporate these realities into their approach to raising money or support for good causes are necessarily cynical or defeatist for doing so. so arm yourself to fight fire with fire, or nukes if necessary. its true that you aren't going to beat rove, for instance, by "out nicing" him. "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It will only frustrate you and annoy the pig." But maybe a pig could evolve to sing Jay. You've just got to BELIEVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetBoss Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hate is easy and ignorant. Love is like climbing, great risks=great rewards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 "A true friend is the greatest of all blessings, and that which we take the least care of all to acquire. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Before we set our hearts too much upon anything, let us examine how happy those are who already possess it. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Few are agreeable in conversation, because each thinks more of what he intends to say than of what others are saying, and listens no more when he himself has a chance to speak. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Few things are impracticable in themselves; and it is for want of application, rather than of means, that men fail to succeed. Francois De La Rochefoucauld Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example. Francois de La Rochefoucauld - More quotations on: [Advice] Gratitude is merely the secret hope of further favors. Francois de La Rochefoucauld - More quotations on: [Gratitude] He who lives without folly isn't so wise as he thinks. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Hypocrisy is the homage which vice pays to virtue. Francois de La Rochefoucauld If we had no faults of our own, we would not take so much pleasure in noticing those of others. Francois de La Rochefoucauld It is often merely for an excuse that we say things are impossible. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Jealousy feeds upon suspicion, and it turns into fury or it ends as soon as we pass from suspicion to certainty. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Many people despise wealth, but few know how to give it away. Francois de La Rochefoucauld No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong. Francois De La Rochefoucauld Nothing is less sincere than our mode of asking and giving advice. He who asks seems to have a deference for the opinion of his friend, while he only aims to get approval of his own and make his friend responsible for his action. And he who gives advice repays the confidence supposed to be placed in him by a seemingly disinterested zeal, while he seldom means anything by his advice but his own interest or reputation. [ Francois De La Rochefoucauld One cannot answer for his courage when he has never been in danger. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Our repentance is not so much regret for the ill we have done as fear of the ill that may happen to us in consequence. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Preserving health by too severe a rule is a worrisome malady. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Small minds are much distressed by little things. Great minds see them all but are not upset by them. Francois de La Rochefoucauld The defects and faults in the mind are like wounds in the body. After all imaginable care has been taken to heal them up, still there will be a scar left behind. Francois de La Rochefoucauld The glory of great men should always be measured by the means they have used to acquire it. Francois de La Rochefoucauld me] The height of cleverness is to be able to conceal it. Francois de La Rochefoucauld The passions are the only orators that always persuade. Francois de La Rochefoucauld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 it is the dreamers who change the world after all. rosa parks, etc. unless you just think such people are just being pragmatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot... Knock it off already, Mr. Frumpy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot... go big or go home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 i want it to be clear that i'm on the side of love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Which is easier, and why? depends on the circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hate results from judging. Love requires the suspension of judging. This world teaches the refinement of judging. In this world, hate is the more natural (easy) product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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