Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 jeesh Rumr - Indian creek does have escaltors to the top of most routes. Thus the increase in popularity and the high number of people who score their "hardest" leads there. For the most part is way easier leading there than sport climbing at Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 sport cracks...hula hoops of the same size cam!!! what's not to love!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 uhhh...that's not exactly true...check out east coast climbing, or tuolome, etc. Â East coast? You talkin' Rumney? Or maybe Cathedral? Bolts there for sure. Â The Meadows. No bolts there! Â Just what have you been drinkin'? It must be strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 no, ms. puget...try seneca or the gunks and count the bolts or stone mountain or moore's wall, or twall or sauertown, please be sure to report back qty's of bolts...and the meadows is hardly "rap bolted" although there are some... Â i've got a moonshine still under my desk...i am from west virginia you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 what i say is that the general population is expected to be able to use road facilities with safety inherently built into them, and they also pay taxes for that right. This does NOT apply to climbing...  The point I am trying to make is the purists are bitching about a bolt when there smart intuitive minds can be trying to really make a difference with the world on a more grand scale…..like developments in RNP.   When i was putting up routes, i never considered who was to follow...if you didn't like it, don't climb it. its your argument in reverse.  So you were a selfish route setter? That is too bad……I was just really getting to like you…    Just kidding…your cool….  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Who the heck was talkin' rap bolting? Kevbone mentioned climbing w/o cracks. Most Gunks routes have alot of sideways cracks. That moonshine sure has worked its magic on you. Â And That's MR Puget to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 no, he was implying that you can't have a lot of face climbing without significant bolting... Â and i'd like to see you jam those sideways letterboxes, MISS puget...you FACE climb them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Implying? Or your forcing your agenda down his throat? Â By the way I always loved those bolt ladders on Piece De Resistance. No significant bolting there. Â Â No jamming just straight on grippin' and swingin' like a giant ape. Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) One route doesn't imply anything... Â Yah....gotta love tusarora quartzite sandstone... Â my point is that everything need not be turned into exit 38... Edited October 22, 2007 by RuMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 no, he was implying that you can't have a lot of face climbing without significant bolting... I was? I don’t remember using this word on this thread……mmmm…..could you find it for me please…..thanks…..    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 One route doesn't imply anything... Â Does two: Mr Toads! Â Who was advocating that? As far as I can see nobody. Â Â Now take the Needles...... Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 One route doesn't imply anything... Yah....gotta love tusarora quartzite sandstone...  my point is that everything need not be turned into exit 38...  we all agree with that sediment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Meanwhile, back on the hunt for the Dawg: Â Â oh oh, what is that up there? Â Â Have another one without my sights..... Â Â Â Hopefully I don't piss off any notable clowns on this site: or his buddie: Â Â Â This stuff is life and death evidently. ___________________________________________________________________ Â What we need is some bolting pics: Â Â Holy shot Batman: it can't be....NO! It mustn't be...A Dreaded Bolt! Holy crap, it is. Â Are they really thinking that the last 100 ' of vertical might go? That if the leader falls, the piece they have behind the loose flake can rip and a BOLT may save their lives? Can they really believe they can do such an act of ENVIRONMENTAL terrorism? OH MY LORD, THEY DO! Are they taking the thrill out of climbing by adeding a bolt to a new 2 pitch line! OMFG! They put in a bolt! On lead but with a drill! How dare they? OMG OMG OMG OFMG Â Ohh the termidity. Oh the humanity! Oh how can we survive as a civilization? Oh MY! Â AND THEY DIDN'T ASK YOUR PERMISSION FIRST DAWG. OMG OMGOMGOMGOMG OMFG!Those cocksu*kers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Nahhh, I have to say Peter that I don't really give a flying fu*k if I piss off a couple of clowns, looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 You're as bored as I am today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 One route doesn't imply anything... Yah....gotta love tusarora quartzite sandstone...  my point is that everything need not be turned into exit 38...  we all agree with that sediment.  I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 You're as bored as I am today. Â Ha ha Peter. Â Clown trolling. Sometimes it just happens. I didn't wake up this morning thinking I could troll a couple of adults into a juvenile discussion - it just happened. Â Like magic. Â 13 new routes last year. 2 bolts. 14 routes, 3 bolts. Â Now, I gotta go pay for "the Dawg"....... and Kev, I got "Squeeze Job" copyrighted as a route name so don't even think of going there and poaching the name (it was Jimmy O's idea anyway) see ya all later. Â Â -BTW- 1st pitch shown here went without bolts. Or pro. After the tree, it got vertical for over 100 feet and went on natural pro. I got lucky and belayed that part. Â It awaits a second ascent Dwayner and Pope. No pro P1, 5 pieces on P2 last 100'- no protection bolts. I think you can do it. Come down. Lets see? Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 adults   Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 adults   Where?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007  Ohhh, what is that noise? Oh look boyz and girls, its Uncle Bills E-mail program going off.   Why it looks like a little Dawg there Bill.  why yes it does....  Uncle Bill needs carbide bits for Chrismas boyz and girls....     auto-confirm@amazon.com to Contacts list Delete this message from "auto-confirm@amazon.com" hide details 2:32 pm (1 hour ago)  date Oct 22, 2007 2:32 PM subject Your Order with Amazon.com signed-by amazon.com mailed-by bounces.amazon.com Thanks for ordering from Amazon.com! Your purchase information appears below.  Want to manage your order online? If you need to check the status of your order or make changes, please visit our home page at Amazon.com and click on Your Account at the top of any page. *********************************************************** BILLING AND SHIPPING INFORMATION ***********************************************************   Order Grand Total: $514.49    *********************************************************** ORDER DETAILS ***********************************************************  *********************************************************** Order number: xxxxxxxx View your Order Summary online: http://www.amazon.com Shipping Method: Standard Shipping  Subtotal of Items: $499.00 Shipping & Handling: $15.49 --------- Total for this Order: $514.49  Shipping To  Bill Coe   Shipping estimate for these items: October 24, 2007  1 "Bosch 11536VSR Litheon 36 Volt Lithium-Ion BBS Rotary Hammer" Tools & Hardware; $499.00  Ohhh look boyz and girls, Uncle Bill has some routes up his sleeves I'll bet!  Nahhh, it's cause Uncle Bills just a gearwhore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 continued from our previous discussion, the "Dawg" is in the mail so to speak: Â Â Â He bought one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Order Grand Total: $514.49 Â Wow...Bill. That is expensive.....I got mine for $350.00 on Ebay....used of course, but 20 routes later and i dont care..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancegranite Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Dewalt 36 volt (with sawzall!)plus two batteries: $399.00 at Lowes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Dewalt 36 volt (with sawzall!)plus two batteries: $399.00 at Lowes. Â Â With Sawzall? Wow.....did you buy one Russ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yo Dwayner: Read a little history and you will find that since rock climbing emerged as a sport apart from mountain climbing there has been a general trend where each successive generation's improvements are criticized by the prior. Â Improvement? What improvement? We're talking about sport climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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